sadoo saddam

[Red SS]

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[Da BeaR !!!]

yea i am watching the news on AL JAZEERA CHANNEL !!

[yassrey]

its not confirmed yet:confused:

[adrenaline]

I guess they did!!! He got caught!!!

[BiGiE]

just now on al araybiya i saw that they cought saddam hussain man im so happy

[Kayman]

whatever :lmao:

[BiGiE]

if u dont beleive me u cock watch the tv u asshole

[Kayman]

First of all don't swear a7san lak.
Second of all I believe you but I find it funny.

[designo]

Originally posted by outlaw
if u dont beleive me u cock watch the tv u asshole

we belive you dude, but its just that some people dont care and they will express it. Dont be offended, its not directed at you!

Oh and watch your language too! :nono:

[White_Falcon_LS]

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[White_Falcon_LS]

Finally! :bigok:

[ZOSicK]

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[ZOSicK]

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[Ninja]

Originally posted by outlaw
just now on al araybiya i saw that they cought saddam hussain man im so happy

So, why you are happy then???

What he did to you??

Just wondering who's next!!

may God bless you all.

[Black Z]

hmm...

there are many Saddams in Iraq which ones did they caught?:confused:

[Red SS]

:lildevil:

[Moe]

Poor bastard! He looks mfahiii

[4ced]

Well, i dont wanna stand on saddams side and all... sure he did a lot of killing and some really messed up stuff...

bas im pissed off... i prefer saddam to the americans, hes the only arab leader who actually HAD THE BALLS to stand up and say F### ISRAEL and decided he would bomb them sej in that point el 9ara7a mafi 3alaih kan rayal... i hate what he did to his people and the people around him though too...

madri, hes like some schizo split personality dude... :booty:

[NOS4EVER]

well said 4ced induction:up:
he shoud kill him self and some u.s solgers befor geting cought
:uzi:

[4ced]

Originally posted by NOS FOR EVER
well said 4ced induction:up:
he shoud kill him self and some u.s solgers befor geting cought
:uzi:

they should let him and bush fight one on one wala he is gonna kick bush's a$$. That chickenshi# american president

u know what i think? If that really IS the real saddam, then i think they probably captured him a while ago (shda3wa they overtook iraq in one month and it took them just under a year to find this guy?) and what theyre doing now is bringing him out to show that BUSH is yaza3am victorious and stuff just in time for the elections so he can get more votes.

SCREW BUSH wala just gimme one hour with that muthaf###er in a closed room ima kick his ass real good

[vette4ever]

I'm not happy with the shitti newz :motz2:

[kompressor]

Originally posted by 4ced induction
Well, i dont wanna stand on saddams side and all... sure he did a lot of killing and some really messed up stuff...

bas im pissed off... i prefer saddam to the americans, hes the only arab leader who actually HAD THE BALLS to stand up and say F### ISRAEL and decided he would bomb them sej in that point el 9ara7a mafi 3alaih kan rayal... i hate what he did to his people and the people around him though too...

madri, hes like some schizo split personality dude... :booty:

Saddam Had the gutts to stand up against us (remember Kuwait)
I am glad they put him where he belongs, what did we do to protect Kuwait, if it werent for the US where would Kuwait be today, where would we be?
believe me every country has its goods and its bad we have to weigh the good deeds against the bad deeds.

[kompressor]

Originally posted by vette4ever
I'm not happy with the shitti newz :motz2:

I think you are not happy because you got beat by a corvette (American Car), your vote dont count.

[vette4ever]

Originally posted by kompressor
I think you are not happy because you got beat by a corvette (American Car), your vote dont count.


**** Americans and **** off:nono:

[kompressor]

Originally posted by vette4ever
**** Americans and **** off:nono:

:nono: dont **** Americans. American cars **** M5s:whip:

[Black Z]

One thing for sure....

all what you say is talking about his crimes and his killings and blah blah blah....

1- The 1st reason for USA to attack Iraq was coz they had evedince that IRAQ posses Mass distruction weapons and all that **** they've been talking about.

2- Americans are not that innocent you know...they also did crimes and till today they are still helping those israeli BASTERDS to eliminate Palestine, more than 50 years of killing and slotering

THATS WHAT I CALL CRIME.

Saddam should have killed him self thats for sure...but he is nothing comparing to those americans blood suckers politistions...

and I know US poeple are against all that too...the problem in americans is in the presidental guys...but not the people.

Peace

[vette4ever]

Originally posted by kompressor
:nono: dont **** Americans. American cars **** M5s:whip:


whatever

[yassrey]

what were you guys thinking :bs: im not happy he is caught as a matter a fact im too furious this is a dream its not happening:spaz: we cant blame him for surrendering they might have gased the hole he was in and he got unconsious maybe.

imagine in a month or two the americans catch bin laden then who would be the only arab symbol that did stand against the US dont tell me its yasser arrafet:bs:

and kompresser how did the americans help us protect q8 they did it and they were paid full and in cash and oil and that was 14 years ago and they are still here, name a country in the gulf with an army base thats not american:confused: they are here not to protect you theyre here to protect thier interests wich doesnt include humans:nono:

watching tv yesterday was shocking and descrase to all of us you shoul have switched the channel to foxnews and watch americans and isreali hug each other and celebrate the fall of saddam.

THE ****IN AMERICANS ENTIRLEY WHIPPED OUT A WHOLE HUMAN RACE WHICH WERE THE RED INDIANS AND YOU ARE TALKIN ABOUT GOOD DEEDS IF I WAS AN AMERICAN I WUOLD HAVE SPITTED AND BURNED THE ****ING FLAG AFTER ALL IT IS FREEDOM AND LIBERTY FOR ALL

[vintage]

yassrey

and who made the americans enter kuwait at the first ? before 1990 there was not a singel american soldger in kuwait
and what did you heros do mr saddam and mr binladen?
did they fight the americans? did they make them leave the gulf?
or they just gave them a reson to stay more?
ya saddam lo feeh khair chan he enterd israil not kuwait
:bs:

[designo]

Lets see how this works!

The americans bring saddam to **** the iranies.
The arabs fuel saddam to **** the iranies.
Saddam turns on arabs and ****s them.
America turns on Saddam and ****s him.
Arabs turn on americans thinking they're brave!
Americans retaliate and **** arabs!

Who stays to live another day? THE IRANIES!! yipeeeeee !! :bigok:

Now, lets see... how stupid can some people be and still say "i'm glad they caught him" Are you telling me that the whole world is afraid of ONE man? So what if they never find him, his dictatorship os over! The bigger question is ..... NOW WHAT?

USA bring Saddam to power. Kuwait and allies love him cause he's ****ing iranians. He bites their asses !! GO FIGURE! (the history of iraq has always been like this, like when they invited imam hussain to iraq to help them, they turned on him and killed him)

Anyways, so now the gullible money guzzling kuwaities are **** scared (whats new) and want saddam out! Call on the americans! And still they have the audacity to say "we love america".

8 years of war against the iranians, while the saudies and kuwaities and other arab nations fueled saddam to kill iranies, WHY????? WHY???? what aggression did iran ever attempt??? WHAT? WHY? Cause arabs are **** scared? why? And after all that happened to them with saddam and the back stabbing and the killings and the dictatorship.... NOT ONE ****ING ARAB NATION CAME OUT AND SAID "WE ARE SORRY TO THE IRANIES, WE RESPECT YOU AND ARE WITH YOU AGAINST THE WESTERN AGGRESSION".

saddam is bullshit, USA is bullshit, arab nations are bullshit and everyone knows it. The **** has really hit the fan no wpeople, get ready for some serious action!

[vintage]

designo iran had the isalmic revalotion and thier revelotion was to spread for all the gulf not only iran and they wanted all other countys to be like them under khomaini`s revelotions
u know man i wish bahrain is in between iraq and ksa and it was invaided in 1990 and then lets see whois the **** scared ppl
no disrespect to bahraini ppl your country

[designo]

Originally posted by vintage
designo iran had the isalmic revalotion and thier revelotion was to spread for all the gulf not only iran and they wanted all other countys to be like them under khomaini`s revelotions
u know man i wish bahrain is in between iraq and ksa and it was invaided in 1990 and then lets see whois the **** scared ppl
no disrespect to bahraini ppl your country

sorry vintage, but i dont buy it! You and alot of people like you act and react on emotional instincts, rather than logic and hard core fact!

Iran went through a revolution because it was the most corrupt islamic nation in the region. Casinos, westernisation to the max, prostitution etc etc..

It had nothing to do with other nations! But let me tell you something and i bet anyone here to argue it with me!!!

THE REASON WHY YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE AFRAID OF THE REVOLUTION IS SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WAS SHIA!!!!

You dont have a single bit of evidence supporting your claim habiby! And today, 25 years on, there are absolutely NO THREATS to arabs from IRAN!

[CAPRICE ss]

egooloon fel jazeeera ena thet did DNA tests and its him

[4ced]

Lets get things straight here..

Im not with saddam cuz he started a war with iran OR kuwait... Thats really messed up, but im sure he had his reasons and infact the whole war was probably some american conspiracy. They brought saddam to fight with iran. The war took TOO long, cost too many lives, but the americans were enjoying it, watching one of their greatest foes occupied with their closest neighbour. Again, back to the fact that america is putting countries that were previously allies (iran and iraq) against each other.

That doesnt work, they start some bullshit with kuwait, and they start a war between them. They THEN use that as an excuse to come into the Gulf and establish bases here. Now they have bases everywhere, and have cornered Iraq from the south. They also wanted Turkey to help them so they can make an easy entry, which they didnt get. Anyway, thats besides the point. So they take over Iraq, for 2 basic reasons,

1- They dont have to suck Saudi dick anymore cuz they have all the oil they need from the iraqi reserves +

2- The have a much better position to mess with Iran, since they have now cornered iran from the west AND the east (remember afghanistan?). They wanted Iran the easy way when they got Iraq fighting them over 20 years ago, but that didnt work, so this is their new strategy.

Also, they probably have a much stronger hold on syria, who is also a big enemy of israel, and we can see things starting there (theyre trying to put sanctions on Syria).

They did not attack because iraq had weapons of mass destrucion 3ala golat'hum. If they had them, they would have discovered them already. And why didnt iraq use them against them if they did have them?! Tera America knows hows to talk out of its ass and they have the strongest media in the world and know how to bullsh#t. They are taking control of the 2nd largest oil reserves in the WORLD. They are doing everything for their OWN good, not yours. They are very clever though and have managed to put everything in place to make you think theyre doing it for you arabs....

Im with him cuz he was one of the only arab leaders who had the balls to stand up against israel and the US and for that i have a lot of respect. Him, Binladen, Qadafi, Arafat back in his youth, all of those who stood up and were not afraid of the US (some of them werent really that effective but still, they stood up). Sure HE also has his bad points but there is nothing that will make me want to stand on the US's side of things. They have screwed our middle east region and half of the arab world and they got us laughing thinking they are on our side. This is a long born conspiracy which is over 50 years in the making and it still has a way to go..

[vintage]

Originally posted by designo
sorry vintage, but i dont buy it! You and alot of people like you act and react on emotional instincts, rather than logic and hard core fact!

Iran went through a revolution because it was the most corrupt islamic nation in the region. Casinos, westernisation to the max, prostitution etc etc..

It had nothing to do with other nations! But let me tell you something and i bet anyone here to argue it with me!!!

THE REASON WHY YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE AFRAID OF THE REVOLUTION IS SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WAS SHIA!!!!

You dont have a single bit of evidence supporting your claim habiby! And today, 25 years on, there are absolutely NO THREATS to arabs from IRAN! so ur telling me ena after irans revalotion masarat mishakil bil ba7rain?

[vintage]

Originally posted by 4ced induction
Lets get things straight here..

bro ppl like sadam and binladen give the americans reson to come to our land ... and ppl like them didnt do bull to israil

[kompressor]

Originally posted by yassrey
what were you guys thinking :bs: im not happy he is caught as a matter a fact im too furious this is a dream its not happening:spaz: we cant blame him for surrendering they might have gased the hole he was in and he got unconsious maybe.

imagine in a month or two the americans catch bin laden then who would be the only arab symbol that did stand against the US dont tell me its yasser arrafet:bs:
THE ****IN AMERICANS ENTIRLEY WHIPPED OUT A WHOLE HUMAN RACE WHICH WERE THE RED INDIANS AND YOU ARE TALKIN ABOUT GOOD DEEDS IF I WAS AN AMERICAN I WUOLD HAVE SPITTED AND BURNED THE ****ING FLAG AFTER ALL IT IS FREEDOM AND LIBERTY FOR ALL

Hi yassrey, the americans didnt wipe out the red indians it was the europeans who sailed to america, and back in the days thats how the world was, Survival of the strongest, countries tried to conquer as many countries as they could, thats how life was. The Islamic empire wiped out the world all the way to china, we cant look at that today and say that was a bad thing, thats how countries and cultures were formed.
The US saved a nation who was tortured by a dictator (Saddam) whether Saddam stood up against the americans or not doesnt mean anything as he didnt serve a good purpose, he was a power hungry maniac who stood up against his own people (killed them), his vision was taking over the Gulf, and he failed because of the americans. And just like any service we pay for, the americans rendered a service for us and we paid them, why should they do it for free anyways, if you will say oil, thats just a feel good excuse we all use as North and South america has more oil than all of us put together. Americans provided us with the means of pumping our oil, refining our oil and capitalising on it, or else we would have just been sitting on it. Believe me when we look into these matters we usually prefer looking at one side of the story, our belief system is built up from the media, which is biassed on both sides.
This is not meant to offend anyone its just my opinion.

[4ced]

kompressor; no offence taken its ur opinion say whatever u feel. Saddam killed a lot of people, and did a lot of really stupid things (start wars with iran and kuwait) and im totally against all that i think hes an idiot for doing that. However, I think the americans had a lot to do with these things, and they pretended they were on his side and were gonna back him up. They actually gave him an image of him taking over Then when he was weak, they took over his country. Again, back to the fact that americans are behind this whole bullshit of throwing the middle east into disarray. They also pushed saddam on kuwait and then came to kuwait and told them, hey were on your side. conspiracies all around. Also, north and south america dont have that much oil. Saudi has the largest reserves in the world, and iraq is second, thats why its such a big deal right now.

Vintage; Bin laden has been around for over 10 years now, and he was ex-CIA for your info. Hes not the reason american came here. Hes an excuse america used to bomb afghanistan, and later with the whole terrorism thing to actually invade iraq. And to tell u the truth i really dont think he was behind Sep 11 and all that, it was again, another conspiracy which included a lot of israeli planning too (a lot of things back this theory up but i dont wanna go through them right now its too much to list). I agree with the fact that you hate saddam for what hes done to the kuwaitis and el 9ara7a i hate his guts for doing that too. But in his stand against america and israel, thats what i respect. Name me another arab leader who went up against them? All the arabs are sitting ducks, afraid of saying one bad word to the americans.

Also, the irani revolution is in iran only. It didnt spread anywhere else by force, only by choice. The fact that its shia or suni doesnt make the slightest bloody difference i hate it when muslims argue on this stuff. You have the enemies of islam kicking ur asses and killing your people and you sit and argue amongst yourselves that harldy makes sense. Get over your differences and work together I think thats the original message of what islam is all about.

And yassrey about the whole red indian thing wala madri shagolek heh. They were europeans back then lol :lmao: ok and now theyre americans. But screw america. Theyre really good at the whole conspiracy thing. Now they got kuwait thinking theyre on your side when in reality theyre the ones who pushed saddam to fight them. Because back in the 80's they got saddam thinking theyre on his side and pushed him to fight iran. He didnt do them any good? Oh well then screw you saddam. I really dont see the point of the capture. Hes out of power and he lost everything. Theyre gonna put him to trial now what good is that gonna do anyone.

I say put him infront of a muslim trial and let them forgive him. Thats another very important muslim trait "al tasamu7". He cant do anything hes out of power and hes lost everything he will not be able to put anything back together. Just let them forgive him and when that happens im sure you will see the tears roll down his eyes. It doesnt matter were only human we cant judge him, let God judge him later. That will prove to the world what kind of people muslims are, we are not the bloodthirsty suicide bombers the world believes we are. I think that would probably be the strongest message we could ever give out.

[vintage]

Originally posted by 4ced induction
. [/B] i totaly understand what ur talking about ok brother but what im saying is that binladen didnt harmt israil at all and saddam as well they just talk and when they act they hurt muslims

[4ced]

Originally posted by vintage
i totaly understand what ur talking about ok brother but what im saying is that binladen didnt harmt israil at all and saddam as well they just talk and when they act they hurt muslims

guys we seriously need a revolution here the americans are kickin our asses and laughin... yala who wants to stand up with me... ill be the new binladen

bin4ced induction

:lildevil:

[Moe]

Originally posted by 4ced induction
guys we seriously need a revolution here the americans are kickin our asses and laughin... yala who wants to stand up with me... ill be the new binladen

bin4ced induction

:lildevil:

yalla man, pick a place.. If you picked an arabian place n you'll give the ****en americans a reason to take out that land
:spaz:

[rayash923]

without sadam no war:(

[4ced]

Originally posted by rayash923
without sadam no war:(


what do you mean no war?

the war goes on my friend...

And Moe... yeah lets all travel to the states... well start it from within the US... thats the strongest we can do destroy them from the inside out... :bigok:

[kompressor]

Originally posted by 4ced induction
what do you mean no war?

the war goes on my friend...

And Moe... yeah lets all travel to the states... well start it from within the US... thats the strongest we can do destroy them from the inside out... :bigok:

You know whats ironic, you are badgering the US but you still use their technology, drive their cars drink their products, eat their food, watch their movies, and the list goes on, if you want to start a strike why dont you ban yourself from US products and lets see how far you will go. What have these extremists done to improve your life nothing, they have done nothing but make life less secular, less liberating and less liveable. Believe me you sound like a hipocrate, and why would you want to harm innocent people who have nothing to do with US politics, is that what our religion preaches. Just listening to you makes me feel ashamed, as instead of making ends meet all you think of is a destructive means.
Half of the guys in this forum and the starter of this forum himself is a US educated student believe me the states with all its political flaws has alot to offer the world, much more than a fundamentalist extremist who kills his own people to make a point, look at whats happening in Riyadh, and all over the world thats the work of people who think like you, what if one of your family member was hurt or killed in the bombings in Saudi, Indonesia, malaysia how would you feel about these terrorists then.

[kompressor]

Originally posted by vintage
i totaly understand what ur talking about ok brother but what im saying is that binladen didnt harmt israil at all and saddam as well they just talk and when they act they hurt muslims

You are so right vintage, they are selfish cowards with the means of hurting their own.

[VenomPower]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh ...now its sharooons time

[4ced]

Originally posted by kompressor
You know whats ironic, you are badgering the US but you still use their technology, drive their cars drink their products, eat their food, watch their movies, and the list goes on, if you want to start a strike why dont you ban yourself from US products and lets see how far you will go. What have these extremists done to improve your life nothing, they have done nothing but make life less secular, less liberating and less liveable. Believe me you sound like a hipocrate, and why would you want to harm innocent people who have nothing to do with US politics, is that what our religion preaches. Just listening to you makes me feel ashamed, as instead of making ends meet all you think of is a destructive means.
Half of the guys in this forum and the starter of this forum himself is a US educated student believe me the states with all its political flaws has alot to offer the world, much more than a fundamentalist extremist who kills his own people to make a point, look at whats happening in Riyadh, and all over the world thats the work of people who think like you, what if one of your family member was hurt or killed in the bombings in Saudi, Indonesia, malaysia how would you feel about these terrorists then.


I have nothing against the US itself, and the american people. I am against their bloody government because of the **** they have against us, and what theyre doing with our lives. When i say i wanna blow everything up its just a figure of speech and im not serious about that. Make love not war, but when its time to retaliate, i will bomb the american government if i have to :D I think that all this terrorism crap going on is real messed up, civilans have nothing to do with this whole power struggle, its the governments that are screwing everyone up... Why cant we all just live in peace why :crying

[kompressor]

Originally posted by 4ced induction
I have nothing against the US itself, and the american people. I am against their bloody government because of the **** they have against us, and what theyre doing with our lives. When i say i wanna blow everything up its just a figure of speech and im not serious about that. Make love not war, but when its time to retaliate, i will bomb the american government if i have to :D I think that all this terrorism crap going on is real messed up, civilans have nothing to do with this whole power struggle, its the governments that are screwing everyone up... Why cant we all just live in peace why :crying

Their government changes every 5 years, just have to wait for the next president maybe things will be better, Clinton was great no one had problems with him only if he could keep his pants up.

[HUSTLER]

Originally posted by kompressor
You know whats ironic, you are badgering the US but you still use their technology, drive their cars drink their products, eat their food, watch their movies, and the list goes on, if you want to start a strike why dont you ban yourself from US products and lets see how far you will go. What have these extremists done to improve your life nothing, they have done nothing but make life less secular, less liberating and less liveable. Believe me you sound like a hipocrate, and why would you want to harm innocent people who have nothing to do with US politics, is that what our religion preaches. Just listening to you makes me feel ashamed, as instead of making ends meet all you think of is a destructive means.
Half of the guys in this forum and the starter of this forum himself is a US educated student believe me the states with all its political flaws has alot to offer the world, much more than a fundamentalist extremist who kills his own people to make a point, look at whats happening in Riyadh, and all over the world thats the work of people who think like you, what if one of your family member was hurt or killed in the bombings in Saudi, Indonesia, malaysia how would you feel about these terrorists then.


Im sorry my friend i have to dissagree with you on this point.... Yes it is true that if we stop using american goods it will affect them a lot, but is it really possible ? ... be realistic...... the opther thing is I agree with you, The innocent people in America are not to blame... but their goverment,, media,,, and a large percentage of their population are not as innocent as they seem... they are just very smart in the way they show it...

the Americans live in their own world, they have no IDEA what is going on in the rest of the world.. they only know what the US Gov. wants them to and that is what you see on CNN and NBC etc....
note: CNN that we see here is not the same CNN that is in the states...

Also, the Americans claim they live in full disclosure, and they have a democracy with liberty and justice for all,,!!! this is a CROCK OF ****... they live in a completely fabricated society where nothing is quite what it seems.... and i am not talking from what i see on TV, or from anything like that, i am speaking from what i have seen for myself... i was in the states ( Seattle) on september11th and for a few months after that.. It was so ****ed up ,,,,, and even though there were soo many people against the War and all the Ideas behind it in The states.. theres one thign that the Americans have that i dont think the Arabs will ever have,,, UNITY!... even though half the time the americans disagree with eachother, the minute that theres a threat on one amercian all of a sudden every American is on his side!!!! ARABS WILL NEVER HAVE THAT ,,,, and that is why we will always be put down kicked asside bullied and not taken seriousely....


Sure Osama bin laden and all the others like him have made the Americans **** scared of ARABS ,, and i love it ,,, but that isnt really doing us any good.. it is just giving the Americans an excuse to kick us arround more ,, and since no arab rulers will unite ..... we will remain in the ****.....

I cant stand americans ,,, but in the end ,, they are more ONE NATION than the muslims,,and that is very depressing.....

[4ced]

Originally posted by kompressor
Their government changes every 5 years, just have to wait for the next president maybe things will be better, Clinton was great no one had problems with him only if he could keep his pants up.

Clinton was no problem at all, i really dont give a damn if his pants were down half the time as long as it helps him do his job better he was one of the best presidents america ever had. It shouldn't be anyones business either whether the american ppl or anyone, he was doin his job keep ur ass out of his private life

personally i think hes a guy... any guy with as much stress as running a country needs a blowj#b every now and then... :bigok:

[HUSTLER]

Originally posted by kompressor
Their government changes every 5 years, just have to wait for the next president maybe things will be better, Clinton was great no one had problems with him only if he could keep his pants up.

Being more realistic, the goverment doesnt change,,,,, the president changes, but a lot of the Goverment stays the same... and you have to understand there are always people that are influencing the Gov. for example Israel... so it doesnt mean **** that the president will change... and Clinton wasnt so great,, he just wasnt as bad... ( i would never say he was great! ! ! ! ) just not as stupid

[4ced]

Originally posted by HUSTLER
Im sorry my friend i have to dissagree with you on this point.... Yes it is true that if we stop using american goods it will affect them a lot, but is it really possible ? ... be realistic......

Realistic or not, this is probably gonna do US more harm than it does the states. In the end, whatever we buy from the US goes to pay off the people selling it here, the importers who brought it in, the company that made it, and finally, the american govt who taxes these companies. Now, we might be depriving the american govt of a little money, but were also screwing the people around us, who have jobs selling these kind of things, importing them etc. McDonalds owners were suffering for a while. There was actually a mcdonalds that closed down in saudi because they had NO CUSTOMERS for a whole week or so. Whats that doing, your kicking the "arab" people who work there out of a job (alhtough half of them are philipino:spaz:) and your depriving the arab owner from his business. And for what? Every Dinar you pay might end up with less than 100 fils going to the US govt... Its not worth it. Im not against american products, theres nothing wrong with the companies. Again, its the govt that controls everything which i dont like.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by HUSTLER
Also, the Americans claim they live in full disclosure, and they have a democracy with liberty and justice for all,,!!! this is a CROCK OF ****... they live in a completely fabricated society where nothing is quite what it seems....

Again, they make u believe they are all up for freedom and democracy and in reality theyre brainwashing their people to believe it. What democracy is it when your going around blowing up other countries when almost every other country on the UN decided against it AND the rule was veto'd? Democracy MY ASS :booty:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by HUSTLER
[B] theres one thign that the Americans have that i dont think the Arabs will ever have,,, UNITY!... even though half the time the americans disagree with eachother, the minute that theres a threat on one amercian all of a sudden every American is on his side!!!! ARABS WILL NEVER HAVE THAT ,,,, and that is why we will always be put down kicked asside bullied and not taken seriousely.... I cant stand americans ,,, but in the end ,, they are more ONE NATION than the muslims,,and that is very depressing..... [b]

Thats whats wrong with the arabs... If they unite its easy to be strong and powerful and believe me america and israel are nothing compared to the whole arab/muslim nation (IF it stands together). Everytime there is an arab summit I watch tv anticipating hoping something works out but you know how it goes... Every arab leader start swearing or insulting the other its a damn shame... A lot of our people are united and strong, ive seen it i know how it goes, but there are lots who arent, spoilt people who dont give a damn what goes on outside their lives, and we have a lot of leaders who fear their own interests instead of standing up for their peoples rights and other arabs rights...

[designo]

i was told this by a south african once, and u know what ? he was absolutely right!!!

he said... "there are two groups of people that you should never rely on to run governments cause they will eventually **** it up all the way to annhilation.... MUSLIMS and BLACKS !! "

hahahahhaha....

i have an exception though...... MALAYSIANS!!:bigok:

[kompressor]

Originally posted by HUSTLER
Being more realistic, the goverment doesnt change,,,,, the president changes, but a lot of the Goverment stays the same... and you have to understand there are always people that are influencing the Gov. for example Israel... so it doesnt mean **** that the president will change... and Clinton wasnt so great,, he just wasnt as bad... ( i would never say he was great! ! ! ! ) just not as stupid

Get your facts right the governing body from the president to the vice pres to the secertary of defense and all changes they are the ones that decides what goes, the Iraqi and afghani war was lurking ever since Bush Sr. was off, Clinton never agreed and he tried bringing Israel and Palestine together. If you watch the presidential debates and campaigns you will realise how different each party is, some focus on foreign affairs to generate income and others focus on American economy. During the Clinton Era the economy was booming now its miserable.
So it does make a difference who governs. And this Israel Schmable, America is run democratically, they have Senates, they have republicans and Democrats and within them there are parties who are anti israel, senator Daschle was against this war and was not pro Israel. It all depends on who is president. You need to know governments both in our world and america before you pass stereo typical comments, what you are saying is typical "Oh Israel Runs America" thats why they hate us, I sometimes wonder if we had lost 3500 civilians in our country how we would react. A lot of them were muslims and innocent people. America was only hated after their reaction to 9-11, our own people were bombing us and vandalising people from Karbabad, and nowaidrat and sitra destroying innocent peoles shops and income all for freeing a politcal leader, I wonder how they would have reacted if 3500 of them were killed. Lets be real here.

[4ced]

where is the love...


where is the love...

:tone:






:nono2:

[ZOSicK]

Originally posted by 4ced induction
where is the love...


where is the love...

:tone:






:nono2:

all we got is one world :bigok: i love it when they say that :lmao:

[Silver SS]

:bigok:
Black SS... i'm hearing it right now:naughty:

[XpressYourself]

I sit here sad. As a pround American , I did not in my wildist dreams think some of you can hold the views you do about America and Americans. Obviously some of you feel there was a great conspiorisy against Islam, or at least Arabs.
First let me say I , like many Amerrican speak about this battle (Afgan, Iraq, Terrorism etc) on a daily basis. 90 percent of those I speak with all agree that we are doing the right thing by HELPING in the middle east. We pay 40 percent taxes...and we know much now goes to the war and to rebuild iraq and Afganistan...not to mention the money we give to many countries. I'm not nieve enough to know we give countries money to "pay them off"...this is likely Polotics and positioning. But positioning for what? The ultimate goal is to protect Americans...and secondly..its friends. When I see Arabs, i look at them with hope they see my heart reaches to them...I do not look down on them...but in some cases up do to the position you guys find yourself in.
We are free in many ways..some statement made against that are wrong . We are not pawns. Recently the freedom has changedin some way i agree...but that to things such as gun laws...the government want to know who has a pistol... but we can have rifles as we please. I'm sure some tracking happens... and those buying large quantities of bomb making material are likely watched...and for that Im happy. i will give up some rights for that. We are free to do as we please in so many ways...sure we cant yell FIRE in a movie theatre, but I can take out an ad saying any particular Presidential candidate sucks.
Clinton bombed Afganistan and Iraq...did you forget?
As far as israel, the average American has no idea what the big deals is and why many Arabs are upset about its existance. Personally, I do not know much about it.
I do know this... until I read these few comments, I felt I could visit any Arab country and be greeted with somewhat open arms. Much of my money and emotion goes to the effort over there. We have family memebrs dying daily...and we accept that in the name of freedom for iraqis and reduced threats to us.
The anger I feel here disrurbs and shifts my thinking . it make me wonder what you see on your media and what your friends are led to beleive. I know there is some high education here and I cant change anyones views..just as I feel I am right, you will feel you are right. I am into polotics. I dislike polotics though, and many of the poloticians, In general they are actors.. but I will say President Bush has received a bad rap. He is intelligent...may say funny things and look funny at times, but he is a strong man..not a cowboy.
Please understand we want Arabs to have what "they want"...not what we want them to have...but its hard. If you tasted a wonderful new soft drink, you would want others to take a drink and experience it as well. Our way of life is not for everyone...that why it is great there are so many options.
America will stand up for itself, but the people control it, and weaken its strength. We left Saddam in power in the early 90's due to public pressure and fear of publics views on the many deaths that would have occurred if we wnt into the towns.
Lastly, my country is being taken from me. My kids cant sing Christmas songs this year...as it may offend Arabs, Blacks and Jews. Signs read Happy RomaHanaKwanzMas..instead of Merry Christmas. The NYC council will not allow the nativity scene in public anymore. The schools have changed "Have yourself a Merry Little Christmas" to ...merry little WINTER". We as a nation are losing our freedom to the "melting pot". We are trying so hard to not offend immigrants that we are being exclusive instead of all inclusive.
Some of you will be happy, but after seeing these few threads, I now am more fearful and watchful of Arabs than I was yesterday. Thats very sad. And its no-ones fault...my eyes were just opened to the misunderstanding of my people and your people. You feeling this way toward Americas government (which is in effect its civillians, cause thats who work for the government) is no different than Iraq being pressed to battle Iran. Why...because you dont like us because your taught not to by the beleifs you have about what you know or think to be fact. Reality is Americans and Arabs should, on an individual basis, have little to hate about one another.
Especially when we have LS1's on sport car in common. :)

[4ced]

Originally posted by XpressYourself
I sit here sad. As a pround American , I did not in my wildist dreams think some of you can hold the views you do about America and Americans....

Hey man, chill out. We dont really have much against the american PEOPLE. Its the government. And although u say they may be trying to spread something good, it is only good in their eyes. Its good to see there are people out there who are friendly and all, but believe me, the general air around is that the american govt is hated; therefore people associate american people with the american govt. Its just the human brain works. I wish there were ways around this. I cant blame you for anything infact your reaction is a very welcome one and it would be really nice to see more of it around.

However, like you said, you have little information about the Israel/Palestine situation, and you are funding your govt by paying taxes etc. while we are suffering the onslaught everyday (not us personally, but us as an arab nation), again, raising the levels of hate and anger. I know you do not expect your taxes to be paid to go into killing people etc, but in reality some of it does.

You have a great country with lots to offer and you have offered the world a lot (such as the LS1) but there are lots of differences in thoughts, views and other things which make up this whole mess :crying

I dont have a solution to it right now I just hope things all work out in the future we just need more open channels of communication and to come to a better level of understanding of each other....

[kompressor]

Hi XpressYourself, I totally agree with you, even guys in the arab world dont know much they also judge things on a belief system built from stereo types and rumours. This taking sides system is a result of a biassed media, and bad political figures, none of us really knows whats really going on, we all think what we see on TV is whats really going on. I could have a full intreview with a person and then selectivelly cut out the good parts and just leave the harsh comments believe me the viewers will only believe what I display they would have no idea what i blocked out. In reality none of us really knows the truth. Although our minds are our most powerful organ its the easiest to manipulate, if its left un-guarded.

You see society is split into different segments those who are literate and cultured thinkers and those who are not. People who listen to stuff and take it for granted without assessing it and justifying it and think of it in a non ethnocentric manner fall under the close minded, non thinkers group and others who dont take everything for granted and justify a statement before instilling it into their belief system are the thinkers.

In todays world its much easier to take sides rather than be unique and think different, people have herd like mentalities they move to where the stick points and I think its time for people to think more individualistically. Maybe we could get somewhere then.

[procharged lm7]

Originally posted by 4ced induction
they should let him and bush fight one on one wala he is gonna kick bush's a$$. That chickenshi# american president

u know what i think? If that really IS the real saddam, then i think they probably captured him a while ago (shda3wa they overtook iraq in one month and it took them just under a year to find this guy?) and what theyre doing now is bringing him out to show that BUSH is yaza3am victorious and stuff just in time for the elections so he can get more votes.

SCREW BUSH wala just gimme one hour with that muthaf###er in a closed room ima kick his ass real good

we have this new technologee called Dee-eNN-Ayy here in the modern world. You guys heard of eet? fawking losers :slap:

[4ced]

Originally posted by procharged lm7
we have this new technologee called Dee-eNN-Ayy here in the modern world. You guys heard of eet? fawking losers :slap:

ok lets put it this way... u take a sample of this new "supposed" saddam guy's dna...

and what are u comparing it with? his old sample of dna? where the hell did the usa get that from? its not like he went into a clinic to donate blood u silly person

:booty:

[Black Z]

Originally posted by 4ced induction
ok lets put it this way... u take a sample of this new "supposed" saddam guy's dna...

and what are u comparing it with? his old sample of dna? where the hell did the usa get that from? its not like he went into a clinic to donate blood u silly person

:booty:

I think they compared his son's DNA with his:confused:

[4ced]

Originally posted by Black Z
I think they compared his son's DNA with his:confused:


black z 3ad lazm etfashelni ?


:lmao:

[procharged lm7]

yes his two dead sons, and his hairbrush they found after he scurried out of his "palace" :lmao:
They should have just put one in his temple and said he fought them.

[Black Z]

Originally posted by 4ced induction
black z 3ad lazm etfashelni ?


:lmao:


Oooops :tongue:

[Silver SS]

:confused:
What's with him

[OFFAXIS]

Originally posted by Silver SS
:confused:
What's with him

sorry man

I just dont get all the F the USA talk . I have plenty of muslium friends here from egypt / iran / iraq and it just comes off bad when i see people making us into bad guys. I came on this board assuming it was 99% arabic and I am here looking to make friends with other car people I dont care where you are from . :)

If I came off alittle harsh there I dont mean to be but one of my good friends was i the twin towers whne they were attacked and now he has 2 children with no father and the guy was just going to work. He wasnt a rich guy he was a janitor so the family has no money. Ill stick to car chat from now on. hehe

[Silver SS]

Dude.. it's o.k.


I know how you feel... but trust me, that we have nothing against the us.. it's just the people that take the action... we all know that you guy's never wanted to send troops over here... and plus.. this Bin Ladin... is just another guy that thinks stupid... but this forum is not about makeing the us look bad... bro we all drive your cars:naughty: :tongue:

Trust me dude, i work at the airport.. and i always have breakfast when ever i have the time with the us troops base'd there... plus we have great fun makeing fun at each other... they are nice guy's a bit rough but nice... they keep thinking i'm strong.. yeah right .... OFFAXIS... i would like to appoligiz if you got offended buddy.

[OFFAXIS]

hey man no offence taken I really this board and I dont want to be known as the crazy american hehe. Well atleast not for my posts maby my driving though hehe I am deleting my post I think it may hve come outthe wrong way


Jeremy

[Silver SS]

Dude... let's take some V8 power and have some fun:naughty: :bigok: :lildevil:

[4ced]

Originally posted by OFFAXIS
sorry man

I just dont get all the F the USA talk . I have plenty of muslium friends here from egypt / iran / iraq and it just comes off bad when i see people making us into bad guys. I came on this board assuming it was 99% arabic and I am here looking to make friends with other car people I dont care where you are from . :)


dude chill, when we talk negative it has nothin to do with the people... i have beef with the govt and i will kick they ass if i get a chance to :lmao:

i have a lotta american friends and maybe this actual thread came off too strong so ppl just put their most extreme views here... most of us dont think this way here though, personally ill tell u a little thing about bahrain... we welcome anybody no matter where your from and trust me, when a person is infront of me the last thing im thinkin about is the political situation in the country where they came from...

i know there are a lotta cool guys from the states, hell, i lived there and i made a lotta friends, we listen to a lot of the music, drive the cars and watch the movies i just wish there was more love between the people who run these countries to sort this whole mess out...

jeremy did u use to live in bahrain cuz i know a jeremy who did

[Silver SS]

Originally posted by 4ced induction
jeremy did u use to live in bahrain cuz i know a jeremy who did

Dude.... do you think that he is the only guy named Jeremy:tongue:

[OFFAXIS]

Nope I havent been there. Ive been to mexico (too hot )and canada (too cold) . hehe

I dont fly so Ill have to travel on a ship if and when i come visit those countries