View Full Version : Did the USA Really Go To The Moon?
ADM
December 17th, 2006, 06:51 PM
This is a highly debated and contraversial topic. But what is the truth behind it? Did they stage it? Or did they really go?
Ok, these are the things i have come up with, as my side to saying they didnt go...
Neil Armstrong on the moon, 1969 (i thought they said there is no wind on the moon and zero gravity. Why is the flag waying then? :) )
http://www.visitmiamicounty.org/content/attractions/images/Neil-Armstrong-on-moon-July.jpg
1972, USA's second trip to the moon....again the flag is flickering. And my god, check out the resolution of the pic!!
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0212/as17-140-21391.jpg
a bit too clear for 1972, dont you think?
And my other arguement is, if they did go in 1969 and 1972, then why havent they gone back ever since? Why are they expecting to going back in 2020? Why the long wait?
its like when they found Saddam, why did they only find him just before the end of the previous presidential elections of the USA when Bush won again?
Honda Hunter
December 17th, 2006, 10:43 PM
This topic has been beat to death on many forums. The website you got those pics from does a great job at pointing out the facts for both sides of the debate. Me, I dont think it ever happened but I dont believe alot of stuff happened so oh well. In the end the only ones who know will be the only ones that know forever.
P15-GIII
December 17th, 2006, 10:57 PM
maybe the photo's were staged,
but i have no doubt that the US made it to the moon.
Evidence is found in numerous museums.
Honda Hunter
December 17th, 2006, 11:06 PM
maybe the photo's were staged,
but i have no doubt that the US made it to the moon.
Evidence is found in numerous museums.
Russians couldnt o it and they had better technology so what makes you think the US could? The proof could be fabricated as well.
ADM
December 18th, 2006, 12:20 AM
Hi HH, its good to have you back on here bro. Missed your posts.
Anyway, down to buisness.
We all know how the government can fabricate things, and having the media in their hands, they can brainwash the world and make them believe them. The same way they have the whole world on their side against the war on terror. As if i were to call it the truth, The drainage of Iraqs Oil :)
I actually got the pics from websites of space lovers n stuff like that, through google.
I was thinking of it, and we debated it in class. And this is a very strong debate. But i wanna know the truth. Like we all do, its curiousity. I see no proof in them going. im more convinced of it being staged.
A.Z
December 18th, 2006, 01:09 AM
Neil Armstrong on the moon, 1969 (i thought they said there is no wind on the moon and zero gravity. Why is the flag waying then? :) )
As you have said, there is no gravity that’s why when you put something there it stays the way it is.
There is something on the top of the flag, something like a stick which helps in holding the flag on a horizontal line.
Since there is no gravity then the stick will be on a horizontal line which makes the flag appear as if there is a wind.
And my other arguement is, if they did go in 1969 and 1972, then why havent they gone back ever since? Why are they expecting to going back in 2020? Why the long wait?
It’s not like traveling from Bahrain to KSA using a car or a bus, each flight to the moon costs huge amount of money that you can’t imagine, I’ve watched this show on TV once and they mentioned how much does it costs and it was way too much and not every space ship launch success and goes through the space without blowing during the launch time or few seconds after it, I’ve seen many videos of them going the wrong direction and BOOM it explodes with the crew inside it.
Although they won’t find anything else except rocks on the moon to do their studies on, so they took what they needed and came back to earth.
And not to forget they have these radars that take pictures of the moon every now and then to see anything else that may get their attention and let them go back to the moon again to see what it is.
ADM
December 18th, 2006, 01:16 AM
Adel, i like your point on the flag, good one.
but think of it. They had the technology to go in 1969, and 1972, they dont have it to go now?
A.Z
December 18th, 2006, 01:33 AM
Adel, i like your point on the flag, good one.
but think of it. They had the technology to go in 1969, and 1972, they dont have it to go now?
Actually we saw them using my dad’s telescope “deep sky observer”
just joking :p
and about the technology, they still have it.
But why should you visit a place that costs you 2 much and you already saw and took samples of that place which never changes and you are able to see it daily if there is a anything new on it or not.
would you bother spend billion of dolars or even more just to go there and you know there is nothing new up there and take the risk?
ADM
December 18th, 2006, 01:39 AM
Actually we saw them using my dad’s telescope “deep sky observer”
just joking :p
and about the technology, they still have it.
But why should you visit a place that costs you 2 much and you already saw and took samples of that place which never changes and you are able to see it daily if there is a anything new on it or not.
would you bother spend billion of dolars or even more just to go there and you know there is nothing new up there and take the risk?
I dont think they ever went. Unless they take me there and bring me back, will not be convinced :)
White Zombie
December 18th, 2006, 01:41 AM
they didnt
its all bullshi*
A.Z
December 18th, 2006, 08:06 AM
I dont think they ever went. Unless they take me there and bring me back, will not be convinced :)
hahahha
I dont think this will ever happen, because it will cost them many $’s just to train you and take you there.
they didnt
its all bullshi*
its up to you..
ADM
December 18th, 2006, 11:16 AM
I demand proof that they went. What proves it?
Maybe it was a scam to win the cold war?
ZOSicK
December 18th, 2006, 11:44 AM
i've seen an interesting video on this subject and boy it prooved that they didn't :bounce:
ADM
December 18th, 2006, 11:46 AM
i've seen an interesting video on this subject and boy it prooved that they didn't :bounce:
Post the link laa. Check out the pic from 1972. Even some digital cameras today wouldnt get pics as good as that!!
A.Z
December 18th, 2006, 12:40 PM
i've seen an interesting video on this subject and boy it prooved that they didn't :bounce:
post the link
by the way guys you dont have to to see the prove to believe it.
mofti KSA bin baz kan igol il ar'9 mosa6a7a wa mo da2eria
le ma thak il so3odi ra7 il gomar wa reja3, ben baz sa2ala gal leh ha ishlon cheft il ar'9 da2eria wela ishlon?
gal leh da2eria, ba3dain 9adag ina il ar'9 da2eria.....
ADM
December 18th, 2006, 04:13 PM
post the link
by the way guys you dont have to to see the prove to believe it.
mofti KSA bin baz kan igol il ar'9 mosa6a7a wa mo da2eria
le ma thak il so3odi ra7 il gomar wa reja3, ben baz sa2ala gal leh ha ishlon cheft il ar'9 da2eria wela ishlon?
gal leh da2eria, ba3dain 9adag ina il ar'9 da2eria.....
The earth isnt a sphere. Its a bit thinner at the north and south poles :)
A shpere is perfectly equal in lenth from the center :)
Black Z
December 18th, 2006, 04:18 PM
it is indeed a great distance to reach for the moon from earth.
I have a video shows some points shows how videos pics are all custom made and mistakes shows in shadowing and other facts that shows this is all a huge lie...
I dont know for sure but this video do show some valid facts that the amercins did not reach the moon...no offence reallly.....
whether they did or not I dont see and good or bad come out of it.
Splash
December 18th, 2006, 04:23 PM
If they really had gone to the moon, we would be seing some good numbers of US military bases up there :)
ADM
December 18th, 2006, 05:01 PM
If they really had gone to the moon, we would be seing some good numbers of US military bases up there :)
Quite true. They would bomb countries from the moon.
Honda Hunter
December 18th, 2006, 05:23 PM
If they really had gone to the moon, we would be seing some good numbers of US military bases up there :)
That may be the funniest thing Ive ever read.
1.8 civic
December 18th, 2006, 05:25 PM
We Need Prove To See Its Not True
Bases On The Moon ? Why ?
Its Easier To Bomb Places From Earth.
ADM
December 18th, 2006, 05:38 PM
We Need Prove To See Its Not True
Bases On The Moon ? Why ?
Its Easier To Bomb Places From Earth.
Just look at the 1972 pic man. At that time, the size of a hard drive was huge!! how the fcuk did they make a camera small enough to take up there, and not freeze and seize. second of all, how did they manage to take such a pic of high resolution?
I want them to bring me a telescope, and to show me the flag they planted on the moon as proof :)
maXmood
December 18th, 2006, 06:16 PM
As you have said, there is no gravity that’s why when you put something there it stays the way it is.
There is something on the top of the flag, something like a stick which helps in holding the flag on a horizontal line.
Since there is no gravity then the stick will be on a horizontal line which makes the flag appear as if there is a wind.
It’s not like traveling from Bahrain to KSA using a car or a bus, each flight to the moon costs huge amount of money that you can’t imagine, I’ve watched this show on TV once and they mentioned how much does it costs and it was way too much and not every space ship launch success and goes through the space without blowing during the launch time or few seconds after it, I’ve seen many videos of them going the wrong direction and BOOM it explodes with the crew inside it.
Although they won’t find anything else except rocks on the moon to do their studies on, so they took what they needed and came back to earth.
And not to forget they have these radars that take pictures of the moon every now and then to see anything else that may get their attention and let them go back to the moon again to see what it is.
^^ +1
have a look at this camera ..
http://www.suzfoto.com/galleries/gallery2_english.html
came out about 1948 ... after about 20years, how do you think cameras quality would be ???
ADM
December 18th, 2006, 06:23 PM
I want a telescope, and i want them to show me the flag they planted on the moon in 1969!!
And why wasnt the flag frozen? how did it even ripple or move? do u know how cold it is up there?
maXmood
December 18th, 2006, 06:34 PM
I want a telescope, and i want them to show me the flag they planted on the moon in 1969!!
And why wasnt the flag frozen? how did it even ripple or move? do u know how cold it is up there?
i know that if zero humidity in an area, then nothing can be frozen... and when they did set the flag, i think it would move without stopping since there is no gravity that stops it.. e.g. throwing an orange while spinning it with no gravity, it won't stop, i mean this could reach to a 0.00001% slowness, but it will never stop ...
ADM
December 18th, 2006, 06:41 PM
i know that if zero humidity in an area, then nothing can be frozen... and when they did set the flag, i think it would move without stopping since there is no gravity that stops it.. e.g. throwing an orange while spinning it with no gravity, it won't stop, i mean this could reach to a 0.00001% slowness, but it will never stop ...
Ahaa, you got yourself by urself. You see, the orange would be propelled with a velocity by your hand, its velocity will remain constant untill another force acts upon it to change its direction or velocity.
But a flag is different. It cannot wave when there is no wind. And second of all, there is humidity on the moon. Didnt they report existance of water particles?
They staged it. Just like Saddams capture
Splash
December 18th, 2006, 10:12 PM
ADM...
u can get many of ur questions answered here :)
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Did%20we%20land%20on%20the%20Moon.htm
ADM
December 18th, 2006, 10:20 PM
ADM...
u can get many of ur questions answered here :)
http://www.thekeyboard.org.uk/Did%20we%20land%20on%20the%20Moon.htm
Thanx bro, good site. But too much to read :bounce:
I demand one piece of proof only. To see the flag they planted on the surface of the moon :)
Splash
December 19th, 2006, 07:16 AM
"If you ever believed that the flag WAS in fact left by the Apollo astronauts, this might make you think twice. This is also an artist's drawing of a Lunar Module taking off from the moon. You've also seen pictures of where exactly the flags were placed? My guess is that the flag was placed somewhere between 10 to 20 feet away from the Lunar Module. According to this picture, shouldn't the flag have been fried? Also, isn't that dirt being shot from underneath the Lunar Module and shouldn't there be a hole in it's place? "
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/takeoff.gif
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