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BikeMaster
January 22nd, 2007, 01:31 PM
Hey Guyz,
As some of you know, im fully modfiying my GSXR1000, so far i have bored the block only to find out i have to NIKASIL it. here is some info i wanted to share about it..I guess i will have to send my block to states for this to be done as i dont think anyone does it here

Nikasil is a trademarked electrodeposited oleophilic nickel matrix silicon carbide coating for engine components, mainly piston engine cylinder liners. It was introduced by Mahle 1967, initially developed to allow rotary engine pistons to work directly against the aluminum housing. This coating allowed aluminium cylinders and pistons to work directly against each other with low wear and friction. Unlike other methods, including cast iron cylinder liners, Nikasil allowed very large cylinder bores with tight tolerances and thus allowed existing engine designs to be expanded easily, the aluminium cylinders also gave a much better heat conductivity than cast iron liners which is an important factor for a high output engine.

Porsche started using this on the 1970 917 race car, and later on the 1973 911 RS. Porsche also used it on production cars, but for a short time switched to Alusil due to cost savings for their base 911. Nikasil cylinders were always used for the 911 turbo and RS models. Nikasil coated aluminum cylinders allowed Porsche to build air-cooled engines that had the highest specific output of any engine of their time. Nikasil is still used in today's 911s with great success.

Nikasil was very popular in the 1990s. It was used by companies such as BMW, Ferrari,Honda and Jaguar Cars in their new engine families. However, the sulfur found in much of the world's low quality gasoline caused the Nikasil cylinders used by BMW to break down over time, causing costly engine failures. Eventually, the product was abandoned after BMW was forced to replace a number of M60 V8 engines in the USA and the UK. Nikasil or similar coatings under other trademarks are still widely used in racing engines where low quality gasoline isn't a problem, this include F1, ChampCar and NASCAR engines.

Engines using Nikasil include:

* Porsche 912 engine ( engine in 917 car, not to be confused with the Porsche 912 car )
* Porsche 911 1973+ (excluding some 1975-1978 911S)
* BMW M60 V8
* BMW M52 I6
* Jaguar AJ-V8
* Maserati Biturbo 2.0 V6 Engines
* Ferrari F50 V12
* Honda XR650R
* Moto Guzzi 850 T3 and derived engines
* BMW R80GS, as measure to reduce weight over cast-iron lined cylinders
* Lambretta TS1
* Honda H-series
* Citroën Visa twin

BikeMaster
January 24th, 2007, 01:16 PM
Update for ya,
I just asked for the price of Nikasil, which is all i need as the block has already been bored out.
Being a small Block for a bike, pic attached i didnt think it would cost that much.
The price and this is for ME coz i deal with them is BD220.000 just for the Nikasil, nothing else! :mumble: :mumble:

Pic of the block now! I will post a pic after it has been done. And we can compare.

Ottoman
January 24th, 2007, 03:03 PM
i'm honestly amazed they even knew what nikasil was..

I thought they woulda just scratched their heads and shrugged

BikeMaster
January 24th, 2007, 03:20 PM
i'm honestly amazed they even knew what nikasil was..

I thought they woulda just scratched their heads and shrugged

Well, actually, dont go to far now, the guyz at the workshop here didnt say anything, they just said now okay, im thinking yeah rite! the boring was done great but no nikasil, means that my block wont last long. Since all my parts are here and the block has already been bored, there is no way back but forward i guess.
Otto, does this apply to RX7's as well?

Ottoman
January 24th, 2007, 03:54 PM
the housings on Rotary irons have a Nitride Coating to reduce friction and increase life... I guess it's another name for Nikasil...

Irons can't be faced more than a couple thou of an inch.. otherwise the coating is lost.. and the Irons is junk...

there is no "procedure" that i know of to restore the nitride coating.. generally we just purchase a 2nd hand Iron to replace the old one

BikeMaster
January 25th, 2007, 01:47 PM
Yes, the block for the bikes are aluminum and i have 1thou clearance only, if i wanted more clearance it would accommodate for nitro/turbo up to 3thou.

As i was told, boring these kind of blocks are risky as sometime in the aluminium there is metal, once you touch it, throw the block away.

The Idea of Nikasil seems good as this could be the reason why bikes can go up to such high rpms and thier engines last upto 4-5 years (sometimes more)