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designo
April 5th, 2007, 10:47 AM
No hoods. No electric shocks. No beatings. These Iranians clearly are a
very uncivilised bunch

By Terry Jones

03/31/07 "The Guardian" -- -- I share the outrage expressed in the British
press over the treatment of our naval personnel accused by Iran of
illegally entering their waters. It is a disgrace. We would never dream of
treating captives like this - allowing them to smoke cigarettes, for
example, even though it has been proven that smoking kills. And as for
compelling poor servicewoman Faye Turney to wear a black headscarf, and
then allowing the picture to be posted around the world - have the Iranians
no concept of civilised behaviour? For God's sake, what's wrong with
putting a bag over her head? That's what we do with the Muslims we capture:
we put bags over their heads, so it's hard to breathe. Then it's perfectly
acceptable to take photographs of them and circulate them to the press
because the captives can't be recognised and humiliated in the way these
unfortunate British service people are.

It is also unacceptable that these British captives should be made to talk
on television and say things that they may regret later. If the Iranians
put duct tape over their mouths, like we do to our captives, they wouldn't
be able to talk at all. Of course they'd probably find it even harder to
breathe - especially with a bag over their head - but at least they
wouldn't be humiliated.
And what's all this about allowing the captives to write letters home
saying they are all right? It's time the Iranians fell into line with the
rest of the civilised world: they should allow their captives the privacy
of solitary confinement. That's one of the many privileges the US grants to
its captives in Guantánamo Bay.

The true mark of a civilised country is that it doesn't rush into charging
people whom it has arbitrarily arrested in places it's just invaded. The
inmates of Guantánamo, for example, have been enjoying all the privacy they
want for almost five years, and the first inmate has only just been
charged. What a contrast to the disgraceful Iranian rush to parade their
captives before the cameras!

What's more, it is clear that the Iranians are not giving their British
prisoners any decent physical exercise. The US military make sure that
their Iraqi captives enjoy PT. This takes the form of exciting "stress
positions", which the captives are expected to hold for hours on end so as
to improve their stomach and calf muscles. A common exercise is where they
are made to stand on the balls of their feet and then squat so that their
thighs are parallel to the ground. This creates intense pain and, finally,
muscle failure. It's all good healthy fun and has the bonus that the
captives will confess to anything to get out of it.

And this brings me to my final point. It is clear from her TV appearance
that servicewoman Turney has been put under pressure. The newspapers have
persuaded behavioural psychologists to examine the footage and they all
conclude that she is "unhappy and stressed".

What is so appalling is the underhand way in which the Iranians have got
her "unhappy and stressed". She shows no signs of electrocution or burn
marks and there are no signs of beating on her face. This is unacceptable.
If captives are to be put under duress, such as by forcing them into
compromising sexual positions, or having electric shocks to their genitals,
they should be photographed, as they were in Abu Ghraib. The photographs
should then be circulated around the civilised world so that everyone can
see exactly what has been going on.

As Stephen Glover pointed out in the Daily Mail, perhaps it would not be
right to bomb Iran in retaliation for the humiliation of our servicemen,
but clearly the Iranian people must be made to suffer - whether by beefing
up sanctions, as the Mail suggests, or simply by getting President Bush to
hurry up and invade, as he intends to anyway, and bring democracy and
western values to the country, as he has in Iraq.

Phoenix
April 5th, 2007, 11:07 AM
What is this guy blabbering about??

first he says that the British soldiers have entered Iran Illegally and clearly justifies that its a disgrace that Iran held them captives? what does he expect Iran to do? hold a party for them and book them first class tickets home?

Then, he speaks of how Iran treats the captives and ALSO describes how THEY treat their captives. does this dumb ass even know what he is saying? clearly shows a comparison which Iran has the better treatment of thei captives over the British and US captives.

After that, he TELLS them how to make the captives suffer! as they do in with their captives.

Finally, he suggests to invade Iran just because they held a few captives for illegal entry!


Can "western values" be more ignorant than this?

designo
April 5th, 2007, 11:10 AM
Well said SA!!! "values" is just a word they throw around to make people feel better about themselves!!!

The Outlaw
April 5th, 2007, 11:29 AM
What is this guy blabbering about??

first he says that the British soldiers have entered Iran Illegally and clearly justifies that its a disgrace that Iran held them captives? what does he expect Iran to do? hold a party for them and book them first class tickets home?

Then, he speaks of how Iran treats the captives and ALSO describes how THEY treat their captives. does this dumb ass even know what he is saying? clearly shows a comparison which Iran has the better treatment of thei captives over the British and US captives.

After that, he TELLS them how to make the captives suffer! as they do in with their captives.

Finally, he suggests to invade Iran just because they held a few captives for illegal entry!


Can "western values" be more ignorant than this?

Toshay! :motz2:

The Outlaw
April 5th, 2007, 11:33 AM
Dosent matter anywayz one scientist discoverd that it will all be over by 2012, lets see which values would be passed tell then!

4ced
April 5th, 2007, 03:41 PM
silver arrow, are you stupid? or you do not realize that this is a sarcastic article? its obvious this guy is on irans side you dumasses... anyway, did a quick lookup, and guess what, Terry Jones: British comedian, screenwriter and actor

vette4ever
April 5th, 2007, 03:50 PM
silver arrow, are you stupid? or you do not realize that this is a sarcastic article? its obvious this guy is on irans side you dumasses... anyway, did a quick lookup, and guess what, Terry Jones: British comedian, screenwriter and actor

SA is brainwashed dude ............:tmi:

designo
April 5th, 2007, 03:55 PM
SA is brainwashed dude ............:tmi:
Yup, that is also true!

4ced
April 5th, 2007, 03:55 PM
heres another of his articles; they make for very interesting reading. darn that british humor!!

Let them eat bombs

The doubling of child malnutrition in Iraq is baffling

Terry Jones
Tuesday April 12, 2005
The Guardian

A report to the UN human rights commission in Geneva has concluded that Iraqi children were actually better off under Saddam Hussein than they are now.
This, of course, comes as a bitter blow for all those of us who, like George Bush and Tony Blair, honestly believe that children thrive best when we drop bombs on them from a great height, destroy their cities and blow up hospitals, schools and power stations.

It now appears that, far from improving the quality of life for Iraqi youngsters, the US-led military assault on Iraq has inexplicably doubled the number of children under five suffering from malnutrition. Under Saddam, about 4% of children under five were going hungry, whereas by the end of last year almost 8% were suffering.

These results are even more disheartening for those of us in the Department of Making Things Better for Children in the Middle East By Military Force, since the previous attempts by Britain and America to improve the lot of Iraqi children also proved disappointing. For example, the policy of applying the most draconian sanctions in living memory totally failed to improve conditions. After they were imposed in 1990, the number of children under five who died increased by a factor of six. By 1995 something like half a million Iraqi children were dead as a result of our efforts to help them.

A year later, Madeleine Albright, then the US ambassador to the United Nations, tried to put a brave face on it. When a TV interviewer remarked that more children had died in Iraq through sanctions than were killed in Hiroshima, Mrs Albright famously replied: "We think the price is worth it."

But clearly George Bush didn't. So he hit on the idea of bombing them instead. And not just bombing, but capturing and torturing their fathers, humiliating their mothers, shooting at them from road blocks - but none of it seems to do any good. Iraqi children simply refuse to be better nourished, healthier and less inclined to die. It is truly baffling.

And this is why we at the department are appealing to you - the general public - for ideas. If you can think of any other military techniques that we have so far failed to apply to the children of Iraq, please let us know as a matter of urgency. We assure you that, under our present leadership, there is no limit to the amount of money we are prepared to invest in a military solution to the problems of Iraqi children.

In the UK there may now be 3.6 million children living below the poverty line, and 12.9 million in the US, with no prospect of either government finding any cash to change that. But surely this is a price worth paying, if it means that George Bush and Tony Blair can make any amount of money available for bombs, shells and bullets to improve the lives of Iraqi kids. You know it makes sense.

vette4ever
April 5th, 2007, 03:56 PM
Yup, that is also true!
free your self tonight !!!

Striker
April 6th, 2007, 01:55 PM
hahaha...!!

emm ok!

Phoenix
April 7th, 2007, 05:15 AM
silver arrow, are you stupid? or you do not realize that this is a sarcastic article? its obvious this guy is on irans side you dumasses... anyway, did a quick lookup, and guess what, Terry Jones: British comedian, screenwriter and actor

no wonder that article didnt make sense!

Phoenix
April 7th, 2007, 05:18 AM
SA is brainwashed dude ............:tmi:

:playnice:

designo
April 8th, 2007, 09:50 AM
:playnice:
Looking at that smiley.... why does the world find it acceptable for women to hit men everytime they are upset/

Ya3nee WTF? f a woman ever hits me, I will smak her back twice as hard!

Phoenix
April 8th, 2007, 10:37 AM
Looking at that smiley.... why does the world find it acceptable for women to hit men everytime they are upset/

Ya3nee WTF? f a woman ever hits me, I will smak her back twice as hard!

good for you :tucmo:

designo
April 8th, 2007, 11:38 AM
good for you :tucmo:
And this particular smiley indicates your sincere desire to become a terrorist! I mean.. being originally Saudi and all!

You know wa I mean?

Phoenix
April 8th, 2007, 11:42 AM
And this particular smiley indicates your sincere desire to become a terrorist! I mean.. being originally Saudi and all!

You know wa I mean?

I'm not even interested.

The Shadow
April 8th, 2007, 01:51 PM
These People in Iran are Crazy!

designo
April 8th, 2007, 05:24 PM
I'm not even interested.
The lack of interest is a clear sign of ignorance! Which happens to be the arabian trademark!

Phoenix
April 9th, 2007, 10:38 AM
The lack of interest is a clear sign of ignorance! Which happens to be the arabian trademark!

ok whatever :banana:

designo
April 9th, 2007, 12:58 PM
ok whatever :banana:
This statement clearly indicates your lack of understanding and grasp of the simplest concepts.

Phoenix
April 9th, 2007, 01:33 PM
This statement clearly indicates your lack of understanding and grasp of the simplest concepts.

all of ur quoted statements clearly indicate that you have too much time in ur hands. so i suggest you do something useful other than going off topic and analyzing smilies!

A.Z
April 9th, 2007, 02:00 PM
Hmmm ....
waiting for designo to reply back..

Striker
April 9th, 2007, 04:39 PM
What has happened earlier between the mildly suggested quarrel clearly indicates that Designo has feelings towards SA but he is quite shy to let them all out at once in a public forum. As the usual human beings annoys the person that he loves in order to grasp some quarrel and in return he will get a conversation out of the whole subject that has started from ZERO.

designo
April 9th, 2007, 05:47 PM
I have concluded from this mildly civilized debate, that our inner feelings towards expressing ourselves through public domains, still remains a strong indication of our explicit male bonding rituals!

Striker
April 9th, 2007, 05:54 PM
You have rephrased what I said in an orderly manner.


I could see what the CLK63 BE and the CL65 did to you. Hardcore benzing!! The 3rd picture which contains the writing "CLK63"..is a CLK DTM...!!

ADM
April 10th, 2007, 01:28 AM
You have rephrased what I said in an orderly manner.


I could see what the CLK63 BE and the CL65 did to you. Hardcore benzing!! The 3rd picture which contains the writing "CLK63"..is a CLK DTM...!!
Sad, very very sad :whine:

Striker
April 10th, 2007, 03:13 PM
What is sad and what is very sad?