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arsenal
October 16th, 2007, 02:49 AM
There has been many BAD MEDIA PUBLICATIONS everywhere, on tv, magazines, books, internet and in many other formats regarding our religion Islam, I hope we could work together regarding this to give better and the true image of Islam.

I encourage any of you guys who can make videos like the ones below and submit it on youtube and any other video sharing website

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHujiWd49l4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIxIk2Wta58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xyE3ITVb6E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic47gdwA5bM

I hope we could work together to make such videos and do our part as muslims to atleast give a good image of our religion.

Please be informative and not to attack but to attract. I hope you feel the way i feel about it and spread the true message.

May Allah bless you and your family.

EDIT: I love Sami Yusuf Songs, watch these 2 videos which been created by other people using Sami Yusuf & Outlandish Songs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toO6BfISFZo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC0rTlKTNY8


Please guys dont go off topic. thanks

NOS4EVER
October 16th, 2007, 03:12 AM
jazak allah 7asanat

Black Z
October 17th, 2007, 11:33 AM
nice work...and yes something must be done about it.

-=<FOXXX>=-
October 17th, 2007, 11:41 AM
wasn't this thread closed??

YES I agree there is bad media but then again it's the same story as those people making stupid drawings about planes attacking the ka3ba

It's all part of spreading paranoia and hate and people are actually getting drawn into it unfortunately.

Arsenal I respect your efforts but posting those insulting videos is adding fuel to fire, if you feel it is offending settle it in a more diplomatic way. Causing an angry reaction will only give those idiots reason to attack stronger.

And yes Sami Yusuf is an amazing singer

edit: thank you for removing those offending videos

designo
October 17th, 2007, 01:22 PM
I don't have any brothers or sisters on this forum! They are all my boyfriends and girlfriends!

BikeMaster
October 17th, 2007, 03:26 PM
I don't have any brothers or sisters on this forum! They are all my boyfriends and girlfriends!

Wishful thinking...


On a more serious note, i dont think you car force a horse to drink water, in other words, ppl who would really like to know Islam, they would follow thier heart and see beyound the Media crap. These days every1 has a different opinion about Islam and it should be followed but i do agree with you that we should try to do our part..Inshalla khair..

arsenal
October 17th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Wishful thinking...


On a more serious note, i dont think you car force a horse to drink water, in other words, ppl who would really like to know Islam, they would follow thier heart and see beyound the Media crap. These days every1 has a different opinion about Islam and it should be followed but i do agree with you that we should try to do our part..Inshalla khair..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWyJJQbFago

its not only about islamic video, we can do something like this video.

btw how do you think islam did spread, mostly by attracting people to its principles and what it had to say influenced its growth. its was attracted by different mean before and now with the communications technologyavailable it can help BIG TIME. what if thousands or a million watch the video you created, let say 0.1% did read the quran translated in to their language, then 1% of the 0.1% converted to islam, thats about 10 people, imagine how much thuwab you'll gain. you helped convert 10 people to islam and imagine how many those 10 people will convert, thats only because you did something which wont take much of your time.

Watch this video of a person converted to islam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjjXuqivykc

designo
October 17th, 2007, 05:52 PM
Why have an opinion about Islam anyways? Just follow it and STFU!

ZOSicK
October 17th, 2007, 05:53 PM
thank you arsenal wo ya36eek alf 3afya inshalla

designo
October 17th, 2007, 05:55 PM
bas "alf"????? 7ata 3ala il 3aafeyat ba'7eel?

arsenal
October 17th, 2007, 06:03 PM
Why have an opinion about Islam anyways? Just follow it and STFU!
if you dont have anything useful to say then PLEASE dont post. i am not joking or making fun here, i made this thread because i am serious about it and there might be other serious members here who might have something in mind which we all could benefit from, if you dont care then why bother people who care. say something good or dont bother saying anything. no need for meaningless posts bro.

i cant force you or anyone else who post nothing useful or go offtopic to stop. its up to your conscience.

arsenal
October 17th, 2007, 06:15 PM
if anyone got any idea of how to make a nice clip please post here, we can all discuss it and see maybe we can improve it together and make a video clip out of it and inshalla Allah will reward you and bless you and your family and loved ones.

ZOSicK
October 17th, 2007, 06:29 PM
if you dont have anything useful to say then PLEASE dont post. i am not joking or making fun here, i made this thread because i am serious about it and there might be other serious members here who might have something in mind which we all could benefit from, if you dont care then why bother people who care. say something good or dont bother saying anything. no need for meaningless posts bro.

i cant force you or anyone else who post nothing useful or go offtopic to stop. its up to your conscience.
dont mind designo he's the birght light of this forum buddy , only by time you will be able to know when is he kidding around and when is he serious :bounce:

arsenal
October 17th, 2007, 06:33 PM
dont mind designo he's the birght light of this forum buddy , only by time you will be able to know when is he kidding around and when is he serious :bounce:
it not like i hate the guy, i dont know him personally but i think he can be funny at times and annoying at times, i made a thread about him and he has not posted in it yet and the funny thing he is posting here LOL.

ADM
October 17th, 2007, 07:02 PM
Burn the infidel!

-=<FOXXX>=-
October 17th, 2007, 08:53 PM
wain ga3deen e7na seeda burn the infidel

Dead-Man
October 17th, 2007, 09:08 PM
on youtube you'll find Alot of people Reverting to Islam, just search "Revert to Islam" and u'll see what i mean, let them do whatever they wanna do, people want to see what they beleive in to confirm their beleifs.

on an Extra note, Islam is dominating the world it grows in a blink of an eye..
and lots of US media have also confirmed that Islam is the fastest growin religion in there as 20,000 people revert to Islam "a year", with Islam growing, Hate Grows as well.

some people say Arab is Islam and Islam is for Arab, while Islam in the Arab world dont exceed 20% .

and you also Need to see Yusuf "Islam" Estes Videos, he made alot of people Revert to Islam with Knowledge !

ADM
October 17th, 2007, 09:25 PM
Guys, as much as it hurts to know our religion is being insulted and picked on in every part of the world, why does it piss people off?

Are we not confident of Islam? Of its true teachings that we know of? Why does it make us angry if others are ignorant and start blabbering crap about our religion, when we know what they say is not true?

What we should do, it guide them to the correct path. Show them the light, and they will understand the true Islam, not the incorrect practice of it by many across the world who claim to be Muslims.

Make them READ. Is that not the 1st word of the Holy Quraan that was sent upon the prophet PBUH? Lets use it then!

And then burn the infidels later on.

-=<FOXXX>=-
October 17th, 2007, 09:48 PM
with that message ur sending ur not gonna help things out :p

arsenal
October 17th, 2007, 10:52 PM
Burn the infidel!
aggression never was, is or will be a solution, it only build more hate and more aggression.

ADM
October 17th, 2007, 11:02 PM
aggression never was, is or will be a solution, it only build more hate and more aggression.
Ever bothered reading my 2nd post?

arsenal
October 17th, 2007, 11:04 PM
yeah, and again you mentioned burn the infidels at the end.

ADM
October 17th, 2007, 11:19 PM
yeah, and again you mentioned burn the infidels at the end.
Sorry if you didn't get it.

-=<FOXXX>=-
October 17th, 2007, 11:31 PM
congrats ADM you have given people an excuse to call us TERRORISTS

ADM
October 17th, 2007, 11:37 PM
congrats ADM you have given people an excuse to call us TERRORISTS
Thank you. But before "people" are to judge us, they should judge their own actions.

America calls us terrorists? Look at the blood on its hands. Wiped out 10's of thousands of people within mere seconds with nukes, and not to mention, over 500,000 alone from their "war on terror".

The UK? All its history, plundering and killing, enslaving people, and they have the nerve to speak?

Let them call us whatever they want to call us. As long as we have confidence in ourselves of who we truly are, we shouldn't give 2 sh1ts.

I personally don't. But if you have personal doubts about yourself, thats your own problem buddy :)

-=<FOXXX>=-
October 17th, 2007, 11:44 PM
Thank you. But before "people" are to judge us, they should judge their own actions.

America calls us terrorists? Look at the blood on its hands. Wiped out 10's of thousands of people within mere seconds with nukes, and not to mention, over 500,000 alone from their "war on terror".

The UK? All its history, plundering and killing, enslaving people, and they have the nerve to speak?

Let them call us whatever they want to call us. As long as we have confidence in ourselves of who we truly are, we shouldn't give 2 sh1ts.

I personally don't. But if you have personal doubts about yourself, thats your own problem buddy :)

tell us something we don't know

how bout the TALIBAN in Afghanistan and the thousands of innocent Iraqis dying from sectarian violence.

See not every nation is perfect and no one is denying anything.

Besides no one has ever mentioned having personal doubts. Just a matter of civility and proper image-building.

It's like the boy who cried wolf. Keep ssaying "burn the infidels" and you'll be a whackjob instantly.

Not that we don't have enough of them

ADM
October 18th, 2007, 12:11 AM
tell us something we don't know

how bout the TALIBAN in Afghanistan and the thousands of innocent Iraqis dying from sectarian violence.

See not every nation is perfect and no one is denying anything.

Besides no one has ever mentioned having personal doubts. Just a matter of civility and proper image-building.

It's like the boy who cried wolf. Keep ssaying "burn the infidels" and you'll be a whackjob instantly.

Not that we don't have enough of them
Afghanistan cannot be judged as a nation for the actions of a small group.

Islam is something, and being a Muslim is something else.

Anyone can claim to be a Muslim, even if he does not follow Islam correctly.

What sort of Muslim kills his own brothers and sisters? Is that person worthy of being called a Muslim? I am sorry, but no!

I would not be surprised if it was not the USA staging the attacks between Sunni and Shia as an excuse to stay longer under the lame saying of "if we leave, the terrorists would have won the war, and its not safe to leave yet".

And about the sectarian violence in Iraq, did it ever exist in Saddam's days? Shia and Sunni lived together, prayed together, married, even mourned Ahl Al Bait together.

Who came to their country and fcuked up the unity? Who came to their country and murdered innocents? And is sucking the country dry of its resources?

Live in the reality of the situation, not how it should be in a perfect world.

The Shadow
October 18th, 2007, 12:27 AM
Good thread..Jazik Allah Khair

Inna ALLAH swt Yahdee men yashaa.
I do not mean to be negative but as i have seen on You Tube is muslims down grading muslims. If you make a muslim vedio the first people to pull you down are the muslims before anyone else, either by way of saying that this sect or that sect.
The Muslims are not standing together and we should, if we look like one to others, surely others will stand and listen, but if they see us weak like the media on CNN and others portray us, they try to shake our very foundation then it is hard.
Yes Arsensal, Islam was built by word of mouth but do not forget that the muslims at that time stood united, they fought wars and the Kalafat at that time conquered the whole of the this region.
I do agree with you that we should try our best and the rest is on Allah swt, he guides the misguided, he makes people see the light.
In the USA every day a minimum of 1000 of people convert to Islam, it has become the fastest growing religion in the world today.
I have a small way of looking at things to keep me inshallah straight.
I think, if i live for 70years, and drink and do all the harams,then i die, the grave torture shall begin,it call carry on until the day of judgment, that could be 100yrs from now or 1000yrs from now, all that time i will be tortured, then judgment day where i will be judged and sent to hell for eternity. Which makes me think, i shall try to live straight for the 70yrs and do my best.
May Allah swt grant you all to be in his service Inshallah.

Sorry 4 the long post.

-=<FOXXX>=-
October 18th, 2007, 01:08 AM
Afghanistan cannot be judged as a nation for the actions of a small group.

Islam is something, and being a Muslim is something else.

Anyone can claim to be a Muslim, even if he does not follow Islam correctly.

What sort of Muslim kills his own brothers and sisters? Is that person worthy of being called a Muslim? I am sorry, but no!

I would not be surprised if it was not the USA staging the attacks between Sunni and Shia as an excuse to stay longer under the lame saying of "if we leave, the terrorists would have won the war, and its not safe to leave yet".

And about the sectarian violence in Iraq, did it ever exist in Saddam's days? Shia and Sunni lived together, prayed together, married, even mourned Ahl Al Bait together.

Who came to their country and fcuked up the unity? Who came to their country and murdered innocents? And is sucking the country dry of its resources?

Live in the reality of the situation, not how it should be in a perfect world.

I think Afghanistan is a great example of a fcukup in the war on terror.

It's not the killing its the degredation of a people by a so-called utopian movement implementing the most accurate form of the Sharia law.

oh and sectarian violence didn't exist in Saddam's days because he had a degree of control over insurgents and with his demise thigs are only gonna get worse. Besides Iraq has been a troubled area ever since the Babylonian times so really it's just a circle of events.

And I don't believe in a perfect world my friend, I believe in getting along with one hand.

Quarantine
October 18th, 2007, 01:31 AM
good stuff. More of us should be doing the same.

ファルーク
October 18th, 2007, 03:32 AM
thanx bro for this thread, jezak Allah alf khair

Black Z
October 18th, 2007, 07:30 AM
it not like i hate the guy, i dont know him personally but i think he can be funny at times and annoying at times, i made a thread about him and he has not posted in it yet and the funny thing he is posting here LOL.
thats normal dude...shetgooool I almost had a fight with him back in bahrainicars.com he was such a pain in the butt...till the day I met him....

damn man I wanted to kiss him.

designo
October 18th, 2007, 11:55 AM
If there's one thing I hate, it's hypocracy!

A group of rebels many years ago, fought and ambushed the british army in North America. Setting fire to their houses and boats and personnel. They fought un-conventionally and were the reason why America got it's independance. This group of rebels were reffered to as "Militia" !

In Palestine, a group of rebels are doing the same thing and fighting un-conventionally with 21st centruy weapons available to them, pouncing on the Israeli invasion.. and they are reffered to by America as "Terrorists" !

America blames France for not supporting them in the war against terror and expect to be owed for their help in saving France's asss in the WW.... but what they forgot is that France came to their assitance and gave them their independance at a time when the british were whipping their assses !

A foreign army invades another country, tries to control its borders, and strengthens its military presence in that country, and they have the balls to call local rebels "insurgents"??????

There's much more, but thats all for now!

Black Z
October 18th, 2007, 12:04 PM
wow...now that was good....

ADM
October 18th, 2007, 02:55 PM
If there's one thing I hate, it's hypocracy!

A group of rebels many years ago, fought and ambushed the british army in North America. Setting fire to their houses and boats and personnel. They fought un-conventionally and were the reason why America got it's independance. This group of rebels were reffered to as "Militia" !

In Palestine, a group of rebels are doing the same thing and fighting un-conventionally with 21st centruy weapons available to them, pouncing on the Israeli invasion.. and they are reffered to by America as "Terrorists" !

America blames France for not supporting them in the war against terror and expect to be owed for their help in saving France's asss in the WW.... but what they forgot is that France came to their assitance and gave them their independance at a time when the british were whipping their assses !

A foreign army invades another country, tries to control its borders, and strengthens its military presence in that country, and they have the balls to call local rebels "insurgents"??????

There's much more, but thats all for now!
Thank you for that.

One more thing, when did the west be the judge of who we are?

designo
October 18th, 2007, 02:57 PM
Thank you for that.

One more thing, when did the west be the judge of who we are?
The day our cowardly arab leaders allowed them to!

Black Z
October 18th, 2007, 03:00 PM
The day our cowardly arab leaders allowed them to!
Bulls eye........

designo
October 18th, 2007, 03:05 PM
Bulls eye........

عين الثور

Black Z
October 18th, 2007, 03:06 PM
عين الثور
ok ok nadrey et3arf 3arabi.....

Shihaby
October 18th, 2007, 03:07 PM
search UmmahFilms on YouTube and watch the guy's videos.... they're entertaining as well as enlightening

ADM
October 18th, 2007, 03:10 PM
The day our cowardly arab leaders allowed them to!
أبيدو الكفرة و أحرقوهم!!!

arsenal
October 18th, 2007, 04:25 PM
search UmmahFilms on YouTube and watch the guy's videos.... they're entertaining as well as enlightening
yeah i watched many of his clips, he is funny, he uses humor to educate

BikeMaster
October 18th, 2007, 07:35 PM
yeah i watched many of his clips, he is funny, he uses humor to educate


+1
they also put him on Ahul-al-bait channel sometimes..

Shihaby
October 21st, 2007, 02:14 AM
if this guy has proper representation it would cause an international movement! people would actually have a clue about Islam and won't run around labeling all Muslims as terrorists...

- Big&Blue -
October 21st, 2007, 05:47 AM
blaming others are we? usa/taliban/ afganistan/uk? i suggest we go a lil back in time to our history

One thing I cant understand about islam and assossiate it with peace would be the word “fath” "فتح", cant really put it in proper words at the mo, but it has something to do with> assuming were the superpower, or have finally sorted out the **** among ourselves what do we do?

From what I heard we start on this fath thingy, which involves the governments/rulers of other countries to submit to our fundas (I think something to do with implementing sharia law in their country) and pay us some percentage of their earnings or something of the sort

I believe fath at the days of the prophet (p) involved sending a messenger to other countries with a message of islam, which if rejected led to the invasion of that country by the muslims ( for we cannot stand adultery,booz, etc etc and we gotta clean up the world)

Islamic conquests did cover up a good part of the world, and the conquests were more of a religious following than that of self defense, and when all those we conquered decided its payback time (bad media or whateva) were crying?

Another thing:
Why do we think that creating a better image for islam would contribiute to the world or our community to be better place? Youre all aware of “signs of the hour” right? And those signs go from bad to worst till the hour (theres just a brief period of peace before that when al nabi issa(A) and a few followers r left)
So why r we excited if a 1000 or a million persons convert to islam worldwide? Would the world become a better place?

Well the signs point to “NO” regardless of whatever we do, if we choose to do it for hasanaat that’s up to us, bottom line is it aint changing anything