30% + KSA salaries (may be)

[ZEX]

الرياض- العربية.نت

ذكرت عدة مصادر مطلعة لـ"العربية.نت" الجمعة 7-12-2007 أن هناك توقعات شبه مؤكدة بإقرار زيادة في رواتب الموظفين في السعودية ستبلغ 30% وأن القرار سيصدر قريبا، وكانت عدة شركات من القطاع الخاص السعودي قامت برفع أجور الموظفين إلى نحو 40% من الراتب الأساس.

كما كان عضو مجلس الشورى د. عبد الله دحلان قد دعا في وقت سابق الجهات المختصة إلى ضرورة التعجيل في تحويل ملف زيادة مرتبات وأجور الموظفين بالقطاع العام إلى المجلس لدراسته ومن ثم رفعه لمجلس الوزراء للنظر فيه وإقراره بشكل رسمي، حسبما ذكرت صحيفة "الرياض" السعودية في عددها الصادر امس الخميس.

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as phenom used to say:

Tell me one thing during this year that's not going worse here in Bahrain ,, NOTHING

[Splash]

yistahloon e5wanneh fil s3oodeyah... mabrookeen inshalla :)

[ADM]

yistahloon e5wanneh fil s3oodeyah... mabrookeen inshalla :)
Yes they do. I am glad they are ruled by a generous family :)

Now, lets see if we have the same as they do, shall we.

Congratulations our brothers from KSA. You guys deserve it after all you have to put up with.

[GhOsT RiDeR]

قطر لهم زيادة عقب جم يوم
200%

اميرهم قال انا اتحدى اذا في حاكم يعطي شعبه زياده 200% انا بعطي شعبي زياده 400% يعني الي له خاطر يروح يشتغل في قطر يلحق على عمره من الحين

[Shihaby]

200%?!?!?!?!?!


that's VERY hard to believe

[Night Crawler]

bahrain gets price raises

[ADM]

bahrain gets price raises
Hey, at least they raise something. They don't want us to be feel left out.

[t88_power]

yistahloon e5wanneh fil s3oodeyah... mabrookeen inshalla :)

Truth hurts huh ..

[tyrant]

Great news for our Saudi brothers..

maybe our turn will be soon.............................. buwahahahahahahahah :rollaf:

[Eyad]

ya right^^^

[Ottoman]

if i had to choose between KSA+30% more money or Bahrain without..

I'd still pick Bah. Saudi is a Hell hole

[t88_power]

if i had to choose between KSA+30% more money or Bahrain without..

I'd still pick Bah. Saudi is a Hell hole


But you've never seen saudi !


Hearing horror stories from your friends doesn't count

[Ottoman]

No cinema's
No Co-ed anything
woman can't drive legally
the men can't drive either..physically

and the letter box ninja women is enough reasons for me..

[t88_power]

No cinema's
No Co-ed anything
woman can't drive legally
the men can't drive either..physically

and the letter box ninja women is enough reasons for me..


So when some things aren't women material, it ain't worth it to ya ?

[Phoenix]

Mabrook to our Saudi brothers for the raise :)

3oqbalna inshallah

[4ced]

otto; but you can always drive down to bahrain for a weekend of fun and naughtiness!

[ED]

these raises are nice, and would have been nicer if they were planned to match the interest rates, now they will raise the inflation rates badly, I was in Doha last weekend and OMG everything is expansive for no reason other than people can afford it.

[Splash]

Truth hurts huh ..
only for the greedy ones.

And I agree with what sarz just said. Raises need to be studied as it has a great effect on inflation. Salary isn't everything, the cost of living counts too.

[Phoenix]

only for the greedy ones.

And I agree with what sarz just said. Raises need to be studied as it has a great effect on inflation. Salary isn't everything, the cost of living counts too

studied?? i hope they just dont tire themselves "studying" the raise like they did for the last one which took them YEARS!! 7asha BSc thee moo raise!!

[ED]

studied?? i hope they just dont tire themselves "studying" the raise like they did for the last one which took them YEARS!! 7asha BSc thee moo raise!!
JUN, studdied doesnt mean a long time, and I wasnt talking about Bahrain, I was talking in general on how things should be done, if you want to bench mark everything to Bahrain you might as well bench mark to bany Quraish 1500 years ago.

[Phoenix]

JUN, studdied doesnt mean a long time, and I wasnt talking about Bahrain, I was talking in general on how things should be done, if you want to bench mark everything to Bahrain you might as well bench mark to bany Quraish 1500 years ago.

when it comes to citizens.. believe me.. IT IS a long time.

but when they wanted to give a raise to the parliament members, it was agreed for IMMEDIATELY ! and it wasnt 30BD, it was 1500-2000BD each!!

by comparing both situations, go back a few years and see WHEN they decided to give us a raise. now, look at WHEN they decided to give THMESELVES a raise. there is a HUGE difference bro! im not talking about a few months here, im talking about YEARS! and bany Quraish's lives werent as expensive as ours even! :p

[ED]

when it comes to citizens.. believe me.. IT IS a long time.

but when they wanted to give a raise to the parliament members, it was agreed for IMMEDIATELY ! and it wasnt 30BD, it was 1500-2000BD each!!

by comparing both situations, go back a few years and see WHEN they decided to give us a raise. now, look at WHEN they decided to give THMESELVES a raise. there is a HUGE difference bro! im not talking about a few months here, im talking about YEARS! and bany Quraish's lives werent as expensive as ours even! :p
You are missing my point, I'm talking in General, not about Bahrain, I dont have hope that it will be any better in bahrain, not anytime soon at least.

[designo]

I thank my god every day that I don't live a life where my employment is directly reliant on government wage!

What is even funnier is that any raise to the public sector is coming straight out of our private sector pockets! You think the government is gonna pay for you? Think again!

Visa charges have gone up by 200%, insurance costs and GOSI costs have been mandatorily implemented, bank charges and labour fee charges have been increased, material prices have gone up due to infaltion and exchange rates etc etc etc .

I will bet anyone here to show me that a single fils from the extra oil revenue and related incomes are going to the pocket of your average government employe! ANYONE!!!!

[ED]

I thank my god every day that I don't live a life where my employment is directly reliant on government wage!

What is even funnier is that any raise to the public sector is coming straight out of our private sector pockets! You think the government is gonna pay for you? Think again!

Visa charges have gone up by 200%, insurance costs and GOSI costs have been mandatorily implemented, bank charges and labour fee charges have been increased, material prices have gone up due to infaltion and exchange rates etc etc etc .

I will bet anyone here to show me that a single fils from the extra oil revenue and related incomes are going to the pocket of your average government employe! ANYONE!!!!
thats very true.

[dicoomafia]

thats very true.


i was just going to say the same exact thing......very very true......

[Phoenix]

You are missing my point, I'm talking in General, not about Bahrain, I dont have hope that it will be any better in bahrain, not anytime soon at least.

im not talking in general, im talking about bahrain.

[4ced]

whoever is deciding on these salary raises is an idiot. raises = more cash flowing around in the country, which in turn means raised prices which will shortly follow. so in the end, the raises are offset by the inflation, and its considered just a temporary increase in wealth as the value of your currency drops a little more. looking at the financial and economical decisions made by (most of) the gulf countries, i would say they have absolutely no idea how economies work.

the only people doing right are qatar and oman, who want their currency to be devalued as they have only just started diversifiying their income generation, and need their currency to be priced low to attract more foreign capital. as for bahrain, theyre supposedly copying whatever saudi does. and saudi is being america's *****. and the UAE hasn't got a clue what to do, their economy moved too fast for them to understand how to control it.

[Splash]

whoever is deciding on these salary raises is an idiot. raises = more cash flowing around in the country, which in turn means raised prices which will shortly follow. so in the end, the raises are offset by the inflation, and its considered just a temporary increase in wealth as the value of your currency drops a little more. looking at the financial and economical decisions made by (most of) the gulf countries, i would say they have absolutely no idea how economies work.

the only people doing right are qatar and oman, who want their currency to be devalued as they have only just started diversifiying their income generation, and need their currency to be priced low to attract more foreign capital. as for bahrain, theyre supposedly copying whatever saudi does. and saudi is being america's *****. and the UAE hasn't got a clue what to do, their economy moved too fast for them to understand how to control it.
for once we agree:cuddle:

[4ced]

7ayak allah u5ooy

[A.Z]

malat 3ala il bambara :pat:

allah ihanihom il so3odeyeen :D

[ADM]

How many of you here pays income tax?

[designo]

Its funny walla!

Your average bahraini gets a 10% pay rise by the government. But this poor bahraini doesnt realise is that the government has increased contractors costs by 200%. Couple that with the 70% increase in material costs due to inflation.. and you get a poor bahraini who cant afford to buy or build a house!!!!

Pathetic!

[ADM]

Its funny walla!

Your average bahraini gets a 10% pay rise by the government. But this poor bahraini doesnt realise is that the government has increased contractors costs by 200%. Couple that with the 70% increase in material costs due to inflation.. and you get a poor bahraini who cant afford to buy or build a house!!!!

Pathetic!
At least its better than getting a large sum of money, and then they start cutting out of it for your health benefits (SMC - if you can every recognise it as a hospital), your garbage being picked up everyday, social security, the army, public developments and educational tax. And they do not pay income tax.

Now, imagine getting a large sum of money, and then when you get your pay slip, you see all the money being deducted from your salary for this and that, and you are left with nothing.

I still wonder where all the 300% profit from oil production goes. Must have been used to build a few palaces already, and a paid for a few islands somewhere in the middle of the world.

Oh well, welcome to Bahrain :)

Hey D, do you have to pay income tax?

[designo]

ADM, no need to wonder anymore, use google earth!

Regarding income tax, YES! Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs are asking us to pay income tax on rent received from any properties we have in the UK!

This will be applicable Jan 2008 onwards! Non resident owners were exempt from that previously!!!

Also, if you have property in the UK, and you die, the govt takes inheritance tax! God Daaaaaaaaaaamn..

But atleast you know that the council takes good care of you, and your voice is heard and that some idiot who's bills you are paying wont screw you over just cause he can!!!!

British Legal system, AWSUM!!!!

[designo]

Oh... and sorry... I dont pay GOSI!

[ADM]

Oh... and sorry... I dont pay GOSI!
What if you had to pay 1100$ every month as an income tax to the Bahraini government?

[tyrant]

^^^ let most Bahrainis first make 1100$ every month then let the govt ask for income tax!

Isnt Gosi a form of income tax anyway?.. i mean they say its insurance but really the percentage they take is what... around 18% (i cant really recall) this money is being used by the govt.. not stored in a bank somwhere.

i dont think their is a GOSI type entity in the UK or US (correct me if i'm wrong here) but instead the taxes that the western goverments collect goes to social welfare, civil works, etc.. etc... which imo is what GOSI does over here! (sort off...)

[4ced]

sure, income tax, but at the end of the month you get a listing of where your money was spent; public parks, fixing up roads, etc.

do you see that **** here? wheres the last decent public park yuo've seen? 3athari?

[4ced]

dude, in the US i paid 45% of my income in tax.

40 frickin 5

but you know what i was earning? take home $$$ was still two and a half times as much as i get here.

[Ottoman]

income tax doesn't make ppl unhappy btw..

Denmark has some of the highest taxes in the world.. but their ppl are very happy


in Canada I was paying 30-40% income tax.. PLUS 15% sales tax on everything I purchased..

and canada is always voted one of the best places to live year after year

[4ced]

it makes you a little pissed off when you get your cheque at the end of the month, but you get over it

[ADM]

^^^ let most Bahrainis first make 1100$ every month then let the govt ask for income tax!

Isnt Gosi a form of income tax anyway?.. i mean they say its insurance but really the percentage they take is what... around 18% (i cant really recall) this money is being used by the govt.. not stored in a bank somwhere.

i dont think their is a GOSI type entity in the UK or US (correct me if i'm wrong here) but instead the taxes that the western goverments collect goes to social welfare, civil works, etc.. etc... which imo is what GOSI does over here! (sort off...)
No, you got it all wrong.

What if you are a Bahraini, not working in Bahrain, and working for an international organisation, and having to dish out 1100$ each month to the Bahraini government. Is that fair?

[ED]

Isnt Gosi a form of income tax anyway?..

You are wrong, it is a pension plan, and the percentage is 6%, the Insurance is the other 1 percent that they recently started deducting.

[tyrant]

You are wrong, it is a pension plan, and the percentage is 6%, the Insurance is the other 1 percent that they recently started deducting.
6% is what they take from you the remaining iirc is paid by the company (private sector)
Btw Pension plans are not required by law in most countries (their are only legal guidlines for companies to follow) each company can provide a plan of its own if it wants.

Here you are legally obligated to pay a government agency a cetrain share of your salary... other wise why cant i choose to go to alico who provide life savings plans which is essentially a retirment plan directly.. the only way to do that is pay Gosi and Alico at the same time! hence my "sort of" remark in the earlier post.

ADM, i know that UK residents have to pay property taxes and the like even if they are working here.. but do they make them pay income tax on the salaries they receive here as well?

[4ced]

i know the americans who work in bahrain do (income tax), british people dont

[ADM]

6% is what they take from you the remaining iirc is paid by the company (private sector)
Btw Pension plans are not required by law in most countries (their are only legal guidlines for companies to follow) each company can provide a plan of its own if it wants.

Here you are legally obligated to pay a government agency a cetrain share of your salary... other wise why cant i choose to go to alico who provide life savings plans which is essentially a retirment plan directly.. the only way to do that is pay Gosi and Alico at the same time! hence my "sort of" remark in the earlier post.

ADM, i know that UK residents have to pay property taxes and the like even if they are working here.. but do they make them pay income tax on the salaries they receive here as well?
UK citizens working in Bahrain for a Bahrain based company do not have to pay income tax, and are like the rest of us. But if they were working for a UK based company and are positioned in Bahrain, then yes, they pay income tax to the UK government.

But how can a Bahraini who is working for a non-Bahrain establishment have to pay the Bahraini government income tax? Is that not a rip-off? Can't someone make a decent living without being ripped off by our fcuked up government?

[designo]

sure, income tax, but at the end of the month you get a listing of where your money was spent; public parks, fixing up roads, etc.

do you see that **** here? wheres the last decent public park yuo've seen? 3athari?
Ti3jibny 4ced!

[designo]

I remember a funny story wallah!

I asked one of the senior guys working at GOSI why they spend people's pension money on stupid loss projects like GOSI center, and jumana center in manama souq and other projects!

[-=<FOXXX>=-]

I remember a funny story wallah!

I asked one of the senior guys working at GOSI why they spend people's pension money on stupid loss projects like GOSI center, and jumana center in manama souq and other projects!


old news ma friend :buttkick:

[ADM]

On his girlfriends ofcourse! Where else?
Now that is some expensive p****!

[ED]

Now that is some expensive p****!
No, thats p**** we paid for.

[designo]

No, thats p**** we paid for.
You got dat right! I deserve a taste!

[ADM]

You got dat right! I deserve a taste!
Does he levy them with a 50% income tax as well?

[designo]

Does he levy them with a 50% income tax as well?
Sorry ADM, I cant talk like that with you when you have a signature like that in my face!!!

I withdraw from this topic.