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Your Nightmare
April 3rd, 2004, 09:19 AM
This simple, yet effective modification will allow you to boost the power output of your vehicle's engine, without sacrificing reliability or comfort. It consists of a small electronic device ( Resistor) that will be inserted between your cars IAT SENSOR. This is also known as a 'piggy back' device as it is external to the main processing unit (the ECU). You will feel the gain instantly, no fooling around or expensive tuning necessary. This unit will work with all vehicles equipped with electronic fuel injection. 99% of cars manufactures after 1990 are equipped with electronic fuel injection.

Here is how it works:

You have probably heard of performance EPROM and JET chips. There chips consist of a stock computer program that has been altered to inject more fuel into the engine under acceleration. Timing curves are commonly also adjusted consequently. These chips can be found to be quite effective, but also pricey as you not only need the chip, but also a socketing kit. You then need to do some soldering on your computer board which can damage it and cause it to malfunction. On the other hand, this 'piggy back' electronic device will alter the fuel and timing curves in a very similar way as the EPROM chip would, but without even opening the ECU. How can it do that? By fooling your computer and letting it think that you are sucking air at a different temperature. Your computer will respond with increased power!

By tricking the computer, we are able to make the reading of the computer shift to the right in the table, which will make it think it is under heavier load and increase the power. You have the proof right there! You can either buy an eprom chip, as explained further up or even get a bigger system that will control your engine, or you can simply keep that hard earned money and install this little device. You have nothing to lose!

QUICK FACTS:

THIS IS A RESISTOR

THIS WILL NOT HURT YOUR CAR IN ANY WAY

ALL YOU DO IS INSTALL IT IN YOUR IAT SENSOR!


sounds good ha... i wanna get one... :dance:
but the Q is...:thinking2 does it actually work????!

Your Nightmare
April 3rd, 2004, 09:30 AM
yalla guys tell me... do u recommand this chip?

Silver SS... ha? waish?! go ahead?

it will cost me less than $20 :wtf: its unbelievable that it will work... the seller said he is selling them cheap cuz he buys on bulks!
i think the seller is full of ****!!!
but he said i'll get a refund if it didnt work!!!!

i think i should try :thinking2

but if its all bullshit and it ****s up my car!!! :electric:

SS
April 3rd, 2004, 09:50 AM
if its just a resistor then it should not cost more than 100 fils, you just need to know how much ohms it is, and no i dont think it will harm ur car..what car is this for anyway?

Your Nightmare
April 3rd, 2004, 09:55 AM
ohms? what does this suppose to mean? :stupid:

chevy_sS
April 3rd, 2004, 10:29 AM
ohms? what does this suppose to mean? :stupid:


Ohms :the unit of measuring resistance (omega) , like when u say 100 ohms

100http://www.greeks.psu.edu/images/affiliate%20logos/omega.gif

http://engr.astate.edu/circuits/resistor-code1.jpg

this is how to read the resistor

Your Nightmare
April 3rd, 2004, 11:28 AM
thanx for the info.... :thinking2 still dunno how to figuer it out!!!

should i buy the chip... shetgoloon?

chevy_sS
April 3rd, 2004, 12:01 PM
thanx for the info.... :thinking2 still dunno how to figuer it out!!!

should i buy the chip... shetgoloon?


as i saw in pic and as SS says it's just a resistor and it's not a chip.

so don't waste ur money just take the number of ohms and get it from market by 100 fils or even less

audi
April 3rd, 2004, 02:08 PM
so, what's the point heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer !!?!?!?
should we buy the racing chip or not? and does it give us more hp + doe's it hurt the car engine in the summer and thanx :sperm: :banana: :nutkick: :worship: :drooling: :beat2: :deejay:

SS
April 3rd, 2004, 09:15 PM
well this tricks the ecm and tells it the temp is cooler, im not sure if the racing chips do that as well..the chip reprograms the ecm and does other stuff as well..i woould say go with the chip and get this if u want as well..

Your Nightmare
April 3rd, 2004, 09:58 PM
well this tricks the ecm and tells it the temp is cooler, im not sure if the racing chips do that as well..the chip reprograms the ecm and does other stuff as well..i woould say go with the chip and get this if u want as well..

yeah, it will not cost much.. worth a try as long as it wont harm the engine..
but do u guyz believe that this little thing could add up about 15hp???
they even promised ...money back if it doesnt work!!! :eyecrazy:


anyone has recomandations about what else should i get to add more hp without harming the car??
any other chip?! from where?!

thanx

ZOSicK
April 3rd, 2004, 10:56 PM
SS is right :up2:

Silver SS
April 3rd, 2004, 11:29 PM
I'm just lost here right now...

Your Nightmare
April 4th, 2004, 09:45 AM
I'm just lost here right now...

afaa! Silver SS is lost!!! :pointlaf:

Silver SS
April 4th, 2004, 09:47 AM
What can i say... i had to much to drink last night

Your Nightmare
April 4th, 2004, 09:59 AM
What can i say... i had to much to drink last night

i see :grin:

now read what i pasted about that RESISTOR speed chip and tell me what u think? is it worth a try?

4ced
April 4th, 2004, 10:15 AM
i dont think getting ur money back is what u would be concerned about after ur engine fails

ChilliWilli
April 4th, 2004, 10:17 AM
:banana:

4ced
April 4th, 2004, 10:20 AM
ok, if ur computer thinks its sucking air in at a different temp, that means its gonna expect a higher density or lower density of air for however much gas its injecting... that basically means u can easily go with a rich or lean mixture (i think more likely rich) which can easily help detonate ur engine, especially if ur running a huge american block. i say dont go with it, stick to some of the more regular mods, why not drop a twin turbo in ur car?

what car do u have

Silver SS
April 4th, 2004, 10:32 AM
ChilliWilli

:headbang: :party1:

audi
April 4th, 2004, 01:49 PM
can i put it in my car ? 94's blazer stock only with air filte +

how does it coast ? :puter:

4ced
April 4th, 2004, 03:28 PM
i just told u guys its gonna screw up your engine especially something like a blazer those engines run lean and rich very easily :confused:

Your Nightmare
April 4th, 2004, 04:02 PM
i just told u guys its gonna screw up your engine especially something like a blazer those engines run lean and rich very easily :confused:

ss said that it wont harm the engine! :thinking2
well, since someone think it will, then i guess i should forget about it! :toilet:

SS
April 4th, 2004, 08:06 PM
4ced induction is right..detonation is not good for the engine but it wont blow up or anything so dont worry..and if there;s knocking in the engine from detonation the ecm will change fuel mixture or timing or whatever and you'll get less power..so its like going around in a circle..if its 25 dollars then try it and see what happens..

Your Nightmare
April 4th, 2004, 08:21 PM
4ced induction is right..detonation is not good for the engine but it wont blow up or anything so dont worry..and if there;s knocking in the engine from detonation the ecm will change fuel mixture or timing or whatever and you'll get less power..so its like going around in a circle..if its 25 dollars then try it and see what happens..

:mumble: so ur suggesting that i make my car the experiments rat!!! :stickpok:


:motz2:

SS
April 4th, 2004, 08:42 PM
well this is not nitrous or a supercharger, its just a small resistor..you probably wont feel any difference anyway..

ZOSicK
April 4th, 2004, 10:33 PM
well this is not nitrous or a supercharger, its just a small resistor..you probably wont feel any difference anyway..
thats what i was thinking of from the begining :confused:

4ced
April 5th, 2004, 10:30 AM
superchargeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

designo
April 5th, 2004, 02:56 PM
this is funny and ridiculous!

Let me explain a few things for those who think its a joke! Listen up mr NIGHTMARE!

In order for an electronic method to enhance performance to work, you need to remap the car's ECU (electonic control unit) which means on most modern cars today, the complete DME (diagnostics management encoder) needs to be modified. This is primarily due for the following reasons.

1. The remaps becomes invisible to the service on board diagnostic.
2. In the case of a OBD reset, partial parameters are not disturbed.
3. Electronic surge in your vehicle does not paralyse the voltage drop through your DME! this can be damaging and expensive!

Also, in order for performance to be enhanced, the ECU needs to me remapped by changing fuel timing and throttle response parameters, this also means that if u chooose to alter these parameters, you better make sure you have the mods to go alongwith it! otherwise you may get negative results rather than positive!

It also means that you better be sucking in ACTUAL colder and more air and letting it out in a timely fashion through a performacne exhaust system!

The resistor story doesnt make sense, most vehicles today have their IATS (Internal Air Temperature Sensors) located in the Mass Air Flow Meter, which in turn is usually located very close to the engine intake bay or block facia! hence YES, the hot ait temperature. but that goes out the window if you modify your air intake system!

What you need to do though, is relocate the temp sensor to a location away from engine heat radiation. the best place is usually right where your air intake filter is! then u will be measuring actual air temperature! However, air density and temperature may not tally and your ECU will immediately retard your engine and in most cases... drivers will see a "check engine" light appear!

Be careful how you play with your sensors without making provisions for them electronically!

So Mr NIGHTMARE, dont go for this resisitor bullchit or whatever, its a gimik!!!

4ced
April 5th, 2004, 04:28 PM
if u want a way to inject more fuel through the engine u need to basically remap the ECU, and when you do this u need to get your car sucking in more air, and basically i dont think this is going to result in a huge gain of power. One mod is never enough, if you start working on your vehicle you need to keep doing the other mods to balance the whole thing out!

For example, lets take a basic turbo setup. You install a turbo and IC on your car, therefore more air goes into engine. To make this air useful, u need more fuel going into your engine, which might mean a better fuel pump. Now all this power would also mean you will need a better exhaust system to handle the emissions. Here comes the deal of replacing your o2 sensors, temp sensors, etc etc etc... And the engine might now be too powerful for the current transmission so you would have to replace that. Now your car goes so bloody fast it doesnt stop in time, so you need bigger brake discs... etc etc, it just goes on...

if u want to play with the engine and you dont want to go that far just get a basic intake and air filter, plug wires and spark plugs. That probably wont need anything else. If you want to keep going past that, start by replacing your exhaust to one which will handle whatever your gonna do to your car, and then go for whatever mods you want

Your Nightmare
April 5th, 2004, 11:14 PM
So Mr NIGHTMARE, dont go for this resisitor bullchit or whatever, its a gimik!!!

ok :cheers: thanx for the advice and info... :)

Your Nightmare
April 5th, 2004, 11:15 PM
if u want a way to inject more fuel through the engine u need to basically remap the ECU, and when you do this u need to get your car sucking in more air, and basically i dont think this is going to result in a huge gain of power. One mod is never enough, if you start working on your vehicle you need to keep doing the other mods to balance the whole thing out!

For example, lets take a basic turbo setup. You install a turbo and IC on your car, therefore more air goes into engine. To make this air useful, u need more fuel going into your engine, which might mean a better fuel pump. Now all this power would also mean you will need a better exhaust system to handle the emissions. Here comes the deal of replacing your o2 sensors, temp sensors, etc etc etc... And the engine might now be too powerful for the current transmission so you would have to replace that. Now your car goes so bloody fast it doesnt stop in time, so you need bigger brake discs... etc etc, it just goes on...

if u want to play with the engine and you dont want to go that far just get a basic intake and air filter, plug wires and spark plugs. That probably wont need anything else. If you want to keep going past that, start by replacing your exhaust to one which will handle whatever your gonna do to your car, and then go for whatever mods you want

alright, i'll start with an exhust and intake system... :thanks:

ZOSicK
April 5th, 2004, 11:25 PM
:up2:

designo
April 6th, 2004, 10:25 AM
good call ! You will definitely be happy!

Your Nightmare
April 6th, 2004, 10:38 AM
good call ! You will definitely be happy!

u interested to help me chose the right ones?!
there are lots of brands im not sure...
seems that u know alot, i'll be glad if u can help.. :)

designo
April 6th, 2004, 01:36 PM
u interested to help me chose the right ones?!
there are lots of brands im not sure...
seems that u know alot, i'll be glad if u can help.. :)
anytime bro!

what car do you drive? and what year model? and where did you buy it from?

Your Nightmare
April 7th, 2004, 04:22 PM
anytime bro!

what car do you drive? and what year model? and where did you buy it from?

i have a Black accord coupe 97 :) its my project...
what do u suggest for performance other than intake and exhust system?
as for the intake im thinking about AEM cold air intake system..
and the exhust, APEXi exhust system 60mm piping...

how will that do?

any other suggestions or recommandation? any better ideas?
some other brand perhaps? how about K&N filter and HKS exhust???
i havent made up my mind yet!
whats the easiest way to get those parts?!
any good websites to order from?

yalla help guyz help me chose keeping in my that its for daily HEAVY use!!!
i want something that will live long and wont harm the engin in anyway!

thanx

SS
April 8th, 2004, 06:24 AM
get a vtec engine..

4ced
April 8th, 2004, 08:11 AM
There is no "one best way" to modify a car... each person come up with his own "5al6a" and thats ur own personal recipe for speed... K&N, hks,Apexi etc are all very good companies and the products they have for honda are top notch so i suggest go for whatever you can afford, or whatever looks the nicest to you :D

if ur serious about power on a honda, drop a 1.8 vtec in there if u dont have one already, or even better, go with a 2.2 (however, i think you might need to change engine mounts and a few other parts here and there etc depending on the size of your current engine).

ur car is a honda so daily use is not a problem especially in stage 1 mod's, so dont worry about it just yet, the intake and exhaust might even be better for the engine than harm it in any way... im not sure about sites to order from but ill look around. why dont u join a honda forum they have more detailed honda knowledge, or actually, ask mr aryan he's the honda expert here. i used to have a crx i wanted to drop a 2.2 vtec in there and turbo it a while back but that project never got off the ground. very reliable engines though, hondas. good luck with this, ask if u have any Q's :up:

Your Nightmare
April 8th, 2004, 10:43 AM
:thanks:

any other suggestions or recommandations are welcomed :up2: