noob q about BOV recirculation

[grafix143]

like the title says ,
am new into turbo stuff , and recently ordered HKS SSQV nah not series mod just for the fun of sound .
ok now most users in evo forums says that the after market BOV trigger the check engine light in evo x unless u recirculation it .

some of them faced no problem and some did , for who did faced the problem they used recirculation and it went fine.

what is BOV recirculation ? how it get done ? what kit we need ? is the kit available in local market ?

HELP from the turbo ppl here :beat2:

[ファルーク]

Means that u wont get the ''woosh'' sound. If i were you i would use the recirculation when you get a tune.

Running the BOV at 50/50 recirculation has no ill effects on the tune or performance.

So brother, you just wasted a good amount on nothing. You should've boughtthis (http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3942).

[Ghareeb_ilDar]

Wow Q, This makes me more furious with the dealer charging 2000BD for ECU mapping to get only 30 HP more in the automatic version! :S

[Ottoman]

it depends on if a car has an MAF or Map sensor

recurculation means.. when the BOV dumps the air.. it is put back into the intake... rather then to atmosphere..

in an MAF car.. when the bov dumps the air.. the engine doesn't know the air is missing.. it thinks it's still in the motor.. so it puts more fuel.. the car runs rich and can stumble and what to die for a moment..

try it out..

if u get problems.. u can buy the re-circulation kit for the HKS bov no problem..

[ファルーク]

Wow Q, This makes me more furious with the dealer charging 2000BD for ECU mapping to get only 30 HP more in the automatic version! :S

Foga il dealer! When they told me it costs 2000BD, figa3t-ha ifwayha il 5ayes.

The Cobb AP is one hell of a bang for the buck mod. I have it on my GTR, its very user friendly. It provides preloaded maps, stage 1 and stage 2, 91 octane to race gas. Stage 1 is basically for stock engine, stock exhausts ( 55whp gain ). Stage 2 is for stock engine with exhausts ( 90Whp gain depending on midpipe ). When you pass the stage 2 tune, you can contact Cobb or any other Pro Cobb tuner to send you a custom e-tune that goes for $300 - $600 depending on what car you have. They email you the tune specifically to suit your mods. You then download the e-tune to your Cobb device, go out in it for a test, and then, you upload the data from the Cobb AP to the laptop, send the data to your tuner, he fixes and tweaks the hell out of it, then sends it back to you to enjoy 60 to 100whp+ @ the wheels.

It can also read engine codes, troubleshoots, problems you have and erase them and much much more. One thing which is also cool about the device is that you can erase the tune you have on your ECU back to stock tune when you visit the dealer for service :)

[t88_power]

Although U hear horror stories on the forums about MAF and venting BOVs on evos and other cars, I had my BOV venting to the atmosphere with no problems what so ever for a long time, On my GT-Rs and evo, I'm using a MAP sensor now and venting again obviously with no problems cause it's MAP now

I say Vent, if you face problems, recirculate !

[grafix143]

thnx otto and bash

Q the thing u point @ is comming so chill out
bas b4 that cat back and down pipe alont with test pipe and CIA so i can run stage II in COBB access port

[The Italian]

Mind you even in a map setup it is beneficial to recirculate... why waste good compressed charge?

On a side note, a few years back the Subaru's wrc team used the bov discharge to fill up a tank in the truck of the car with pressurized air and then used that air much like a nitrous shot.

[BikeMaster]

Have no idea on this Subject..how about u post some pix of ur ride?

[grafix143]

HKS BOV SSQV and K&N drop in filter just arrived home ,
ill fix em up in the afternoon and ............... c the results

[BLOODLINE]

Yes baby :headbang:

[grafix143]

Yes baby :headbang:
i know what u r waiting for thamoor
the aps in the way by next week same day if the shipping went smooth :elefant:

[Kayman]

We shall hear the BOV tonight :D

[BLOODLINE]

i know what u r waiting for thamoor
the aps in the way by next week same day if the shipping went smooth :elefant:
waiting :D

[grafix143]

HKS SSQV installed aswell as the K&N drop in filter
well i sound good and the filter really added more power i can feel it easy when i step in lol
it took me around 1 hour to fix the bov and install the filter aswell
good thing for a noob :p

[Kayman]

ta3al mur 3lay abood!

[grafix143]

ta3al mur 3lay abood!

where r u

[The Italian]

HKS SSQV installed aswell as the K&N drop in filter
well i sound good and the filter really added more power i can feel it easy when i step in lol
it took me around 1 hour to fix the bov and install the filter aswell
good thing for a noob :p

Want more power from an intake? How about 26hp? :D

http://www.rpm-arabia.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/i/l/illust_evo10.jpg

http://www.rpm-arabia.com/store/search-by-vehicle/mitsubishi/lancer-evo-10/gruppe-m-ram-air-intake-mitsubishi-evo-10.html

[BLOODLINE]

HKS SSQV installed aswell as the K&N drop in filter
well i sound good and the filter really added more power i can feel it easy when i step in lol
it took me around 1 hour to fix the bov and install the filter aswell
good thing for a noob :p
Video or it never happend!

[grafix143]

Want more power from an intake? How about 26hp? :D

http://www.rpm-arabia.com/store/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/i/l/illust_evo10.jpg

http://www.rpm-arabia.com/store/search-by-vehicle/mitsubishi/lancer-evo-10/gruppe-m-ram-air-intake-mitsubishi-evo-10.html

556BD , yeah i have other plans for this amount of money :)

[grafix143]

Video or it never happend!
:lol:
ummmmm
NO
real world action or never happend :devil:

[BLOODLINE]

Am ready! yalla meta?

[grafix143]

Am ready! yalla meta?

whats ur car ?

[BLOODLINE]

Camaro Ls1 exhaust + headers + shift kit, stock tune, stock tires

[grafix143]

Camaro Ls1 exhaust + headers + shift kit, stock tune, stock tires

so its bahraini stock camaro ls1 v8
wanna race my little 2.0 salon car :electric:

stay tuned u will have ur joy next week :driving:

[maXmood]

^don't race before u buy the camera... :D

[BLOODLINE]

so its bahraini stock camaro ls1 v8
wanna race my little 2.0 salon car :electric:

stay tuned u will have ur joy next week :driving:
waiting :dowave:

[grafix143]

fee cam , listen bloody lets race the caddi 1st
then well go to evo ,, ha what u say ?
hehehe eshda3wah

mxi fee cam , bas yabeela car to record laa
ur z mathalan mathalan

[ED]

you should film the race from both cars, I will donate my camera for oe of the cars.

[BLOODLINE]

fee cam , listen bloody lets race the caddi 1st
then well go to evo ,, ha what u say ?
hehehe eshda3wah

mxi fee cam , bas yabeela car to record laa
ur z mathalan mathalan
Caddy vs Sonata o b3ad unfair!! :p

2 passengers in each car, and we can make a fair race with a video from both the sides :bounce:

[BLOODLINE]

you should film the race from both cars, I will donate my camera for oe of the cars.
ta3jebnii .. VQ has a cam, Zex has one as well :naughty:

[ED]

seems like there are 4 cameras which is sweet, one in start filming from behind the cars, one in finish, and 2 in cars, nice editing and some speed metal for sound track, al3an abooooo.

[BLOODLINE]

yeah baby .. internationally :headbang:

[Kayman]

eeeee yabeela race..

start or rolling?

distance?

[grafix143]

hahahaah kayman
what about 100m
rolling from 40
lol

[Kayman]

I suggest 400m rolling 40.

or 700m from start.

[maXmood]

3abood, change ur signature plz.

[grafix143]

3abood, change ur signature plz.
la its one love my friend , one love :headbang:
the rest r whores

[grafix143]

you should film the race from both cars, I will donate my camera for oe of the cars.
then bloodline will win the cam :bigkiss:

[grafix143]

ok here some photos of the hks ssq and when it got installed :)
and oh yeah and the filter too

http://www.gulfgt.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=248&stc=1&d=1247371915

http://www.gulfgt.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=249&stc=1&d=1247371915

http://www.gulfgt.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=250&stc=1&d=1247371915

http://www.gulfgt.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=251&stc=1&d=1247371915

[Ottoman]

FYI the K&N will slowly ruin ur Air flow meter..

[grafix143]

FYI the K&N will slowly ruin ur Air flow meter..
ops :duh: i didnt know that . thnx otto
but anyways soon it going replaced by AMS CAI by next month

[the master]

zeen 3bood

back to the old days

[t88_power]

Grafix,

Don't buy ams stuff, they're overpriced cause ams got famous later

U can get the same stuff way cheaper with other brands :)

[grafix143]

Grafix,

Don't buy ams stuff, they're overpriced cause ams got famous later

U can get the same stuff way cheaper with other brands :)
i can tell that for e.g. AGP CIA go for 300 while the AMS go for 500$
but ams always provide dyno sheets and its a trusted brand for after sale support . :pileon:

[grafix143]

zeen 3bood

back to the old days

:stickpok: wanna race :whip:

[BLOODLINE]

Am still waiting 3abood!!

[grafix143]

Am still waiting 3abood!!
u can wait , u r good @ waiting :cuddle:

[BLOODLINE]

Yalla la .. till when?

[the master]

:stickpok: wanna race :whip:


when you ready :camper:

[grafix143]

when you ready :camper:
:whack: ill call u then

[BLOODLINE]

yalla 5ith!! ^^

[grafix143]

yalla 5ith!! ^^
:comedy: ee wat u will get the call too :hot: dont worry i know u luv me
:beat2: , bas am waiting to install the ams cat back awal

ana 3abali what arrived to aramex was my ams cat back , bas it was my friend S2000 top lol , my cat just arrived dubai , ya3ni will be in bahrain 2moro or saturday ufffffffff

[BLOODLINE]

hehehe okay man no problem, as long as am on the list "to kill" I dont mind :p

[Ottoman]

:comedy: ee wat u will get the call too :hot: dont worry i know u luv me
:beat2: , bas am waiting to install the ams cat back awal

ana 3abali what arrived to aramex was my ams cat back , bas it was my friend S2000 top lol , my cat just arrived dubai , ya3ni will be in bahrain 2moro or saturday ufffffffff


ur friend shipped an S2000 hardtop via aramex?

OUCH

that must of cost a fortune!

[SAMoloGY]

i can tell that for e.g. AGP CIA go for 300 while the AMS go for 500$
but ams always provide dyno sheets and its a trusted brand for after sale support . :pileon:
dude.. seriously, what type of after sale support are u expecting for an aluminum pipe with a cone filter stuck at the end of it???

i didnt have a single AMS part on my car.. not 1, and i refuse to order from AMS due to their unexplained prices! i know evo's.. if its possible, run the stock airbox with a HKS drop in, trust me with this one!

[grafix143]

ur friend shipped an S2000 hardtop via aramex?

OUCH

that must of cost a fortune!

it was not hardtop normal conv top , the stock one must go after layin under the sun for 4 years

[grafix143]

dude.. seriously, what type of after sale support are u expecting for an aluminum pipe with a cone filter stuck at the end of it???

i didnt have a single AMS part on my car.. not 1, and i refuse to order from AMS due to their unexplained prices! i know evo's.. if its possible, run the stock airbox with a HKS drop in, trust me with this one!


baaaaaaaaal i was just talkin about ordring HKS drop in :thinking2 u read my mind sam

[m7mad.a]

Camaro Ls1 exhaust + headers + shift kit, stock tune, stock tires


:blink:
etha ma 3alih cam :P, wana race a Megane sport?

[BLOODLINE]

I never say no ^^ :D

[m7mad.a]

I never say no ^^ :D


hehehehe ta3jebny :P
I'm in the tuning process with my car, it should be ready by the end of the week. 3la next week inshalla when it's ready I'll PM you :D

[BLOODLINE]

Cool man .. lemme know :D

[Dxbtune]

Contrary to popular belief, the pshhh sound you want to get with a stock ECU setup = loss in power.

Why? because of 2 reasons.
-Your maf gets a particular airflow reading then it's ventilated to atmosphere temporarily leaving your car in a rich condition during shifts. The worst part of it all is that your car wont have that buttery smooth sensation between normal speed shifts because of that slight rich condition. You will also notice your car is stall happy wanting to stall out on you all the time in akward places.

-The boost you accumulated has just disappeared when lifting off the gas so now the turbo to works more to build up that boost again and that takes time and in turn is a temporary loss in power. Not to mention fouling of your plugs and damage to your cat from excess carbon.


When you have bigger setups and are running some significant boost it's important to get an atmospheric dump valve to elimintate compressor surge (blades bent and warped) and keep stress off your turbo. Thats when you need vta. Recirculating will have the same effect but on your stock setup it's generally preferred.

HKS SSQV comes with a recirculating kit for your stock setup (and is loud) once you get tuned and increase the boost go VTA. (really loud) You can even change the fins on the ssqv to make different sounds if thats what floats your boat.

My 2 fils

[grafix143]

Contrary to popular belief, the pshhh sound you want to get with a stock ECU setup = loss in power.

Why? because of 2 reasons.
-Your maf gets a particular airflow reading then it's ventilated to atmosphere temporarily leaving your car in a rich condition during shifts. The worst part of it all is that your car wont have that buttery smooth sensation between normal speed shifts because of that slight rich condition. You will also notice your car is stall happy wanting to stall out on you all the time in akward places.

-The boost you accumulated has just disappeared when lifting off the gas so now the turbo to works more to build up that boost again and that takes time and in turn is a temporary loss in power. Not to mention fouling of your plugs and damage to your cat from excess carbon.


When you have bigger setups and are running some significant boost it's important to get an atmospheric dump valve to elimintate compressor surge (blades bent and warped) and keep stress off your turbo. Thats when you need vta. Recirculating will have the same effect but on your stock setup it's generally preferred.

HKS SSQV comes with a recirculating kit for your stock setup (and is loud) once you get tuned and increase the boost go VTA. (really loud) You can even change the fins on the ssqv to make different sounds if thats what floats your boat.

My 2 fils

:headbang: . i did my home work already :apple:
recirculating kit in the way :pow: