Lexus of Oman Introduce ISF

[KLEEMANN]

according to the salesperson there it's 5.0 423hp priced between 28-30k Omani Riyals no final price yet !

the pictured car is a demo only car booking is opened for one month later delivery for the first shipment.

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[KLEEMANN]

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[BRN996TT]

all gcc will sell them , this is a demo car
the car will be sold over gcc from 3rd week of sept

[coolioo]

^^^ the Gear knob is missing

[///M Power]

Sorry for going off-topic.

But, does anyone know anything about the white IS-F for sale in bahrain? any details?

a PM would be better in order not to drift off topic :D

[BRN996TT]

he changed his mind he wont sell it

[Ottoman]

cloth seats?

has there been any updates/face lift on the ISF since it came out it in the states a few years back?

[BRN996TT]

cloth seats?

has there been any updates/face lift on the ISF since it came out it in the states a few years back?

its leather , the pic is not clear maybe cause of the a.c. seats vents

this is a facelift with front and rear led , complete new dash , sterio , and side mirrors and lsd

[BLOODLINE]

I cant wait to drive one of those :bounce:

[Rider]

Love the M3 Killer :D

[CantBeatZ06]

Love the M3 Killer :D

7ilwa hathy .. M3 killer...

[maXmood]

EK, isn't that demo car a US specs? if it is, then would they introduce GCC specs for the consumers in the gulf?

[ZOSicK]

give me one in white please :up2:

[Splash]

So, with that price now we have the ISF, M3 and the CTS-V


what will you choose guys?

[ZOSicK]

M3 over all wise :headbang:

[Splash]

the CTS-V comes in coupe now too :p

[Quarantine]

nice to see the car finally make it here officially.
Not feeling the orange interior theme, I hope thats an option

[ZOSicK]

the CTS-V comes in coupe now too :p

i know its a beast but the M3 is sexy :grin:

[BRN996TT]

So, with that price now we have the ISF, M3 and the CTS-V


what will you choose guys?

which one you will buy ??????

you seem to talk about isf alot

i never saw you talk about ctsv unless its marketing

[BRN996TT]

its an option , black and white two tone seats or blk and orange

[BRN996TT]

EK, isn't that demo car a US specs? if it is, then would they introduce GCC specs for the consumers in the gulf?

demo car is pre production car , its gcc spec

[Ottoman]

its leather , the pic is not clear maybe cause of the a.c. seats vents

this is a facelift with front and rear led , complete new dash , sterio , and side mirrors and lsd


Ahhh yeah yeah.. i see it now..

i was looking at the bottom of the seats.. it looked funny..


EK (or anyone else with a theory for that matter),

we know that the M3 and the CTSV both drop in price like keys from a learjet...

and in Bahrain, the lexus brand as well as the IS holds it's value quite well...

do you think the IS-F will be the same?

or due to it's sports car nature(something unusual for the lexus brand) the market for IS-F buyers will be smaller? (and therefore 2nd hand demand on an IS-F will be less than the types who buy an IS300)


or to simplify my question..


will an IS-F deprciate more or less than an IS300 % wise

[Splash]

which one you will buy ??????

you seem to talk about isf alot

i never saw you talk about ctsv unless its marketing

Marketing ha? :D

that's a tough choice... I love them all,,, although i might lean towards the M3 more, feel it has more charecter than the rest

[ZEX]

due to it's fuel issue that was mentioned before, how much HP will this ISF produce ?

[SAMoloGY]

Ahhh yeah yeah.. i see it now..

i was looking at the bottom of the seats.. it looked funny..


EK (or anyone else with a theory for that matter),

we know that the M3 and the CTSV both drop in price like keys from a learjet...

and in Bahrain, the lexus brand as well as the IS holds it's value quite well...

do you think the IS-F will be the same?

or due to it's sports car nature(something unusual for the lexus brand) the market for IS-F buyers will be smaller? (and therefore 2nd hand demand on an IS-F will be less than the types who buy an IS300)


or to simplify my question..


will an IS-F deprciate more or less than an IS300 % wise

its all linked to supply demand.. if the car is in demand.. the price wont drop as fast.

now, thats not the case with the IS-F, since the IS300's demand is driven by a plethoura of demographics and age groups in both males and females, the IS-F will surely have a smaller market.

in this case, its up to supply to drive the price of the IS-F.. since the supply wont be as high, the demand can still be much smaller and still hold the same equilibrium.

another factor that went into the IS300 holding its price is the price increase at the Dealer, when the IS300 was first introduced.. it was selling for 13-14k, 2 years later.. the price suddenly increased to 17,800

anyone in his right mind would therefore look at the second hand market, which presents us with two results or.. scenarios.. increase in demand for second hand IS300's, and an increase in a "automobile opportunity cost" for the current IS300 owner.

the opportunity cost has 2 major drivers in the automobile market.. other cars of the same Genre, same price.. or, newer model of the same car. when both them are considerably higher.. the shared denominator, in this case the IS300's second hand value remains unchanged.

[designo]

Notice the shift knob is missing? That's either cause it was stolen, or dealer removed to avoid theft! :laf:

I just replaced mine with the F Sport one, it's BD50 and very easy to replace!

[Splash]

I just replaced mine with the F Sport one, it's BD50 and very easy to replace!

off-topic!!!

show-off!!!

[grafix143]

off-topic!!!

show-off!!!

3aib 3aib D , walla 3aib
lol @ splash

[ZOSicK]

Notice the shift knob is missing? That's either cause it was stolen, or dealer removed to avoid theft! :laf:

I just replaced mine with the F Sport one, it's BD50 and very easy to replace!

metkhare3 stay on topic :grin:

[designo]

I'm sorry, just wanted to explain why the shift knob is not there, cause it's really easy to remove that's all!

BTW, that is an amazing showroom!

[KLEEMANN]

this is imported. check the difference in the headlights the one we will get as BRN said is the face lifted version which include interior change too
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[BRN996TT]

due to it's fuel issue that was mentioned before, how much HP will this ISF produce ?

same hp as usa 416hp

the hp did not change since all gcc have good fuel and less sulfar in them

they can change there tune only for bahrain

in every 10,000km we have to clean the injectors or add injector cleaners from time to time

its the same case with all direct fuel injection cars in bahrain from porsche to bmw and now lexus

they have to change the fuel in bahrain at least with less sulfar

[Ottoman]

its all linked to supply demand.. if the car is in demand.. the price wont drop as fast.

now, thats not the case with the IS-F, since the IS300's demand is driven by a plethoura of demographics and age groups in both males and females, the IS-F will surely have a smaller market.

in this case, its up to supply to drive the price of the IS-F.. since the supply wont be as high, the demand can still be much smaller and still hold the same equilibrium.

another factor that went into the IS300 holding its price is the price increase at the Dealer, when the IS300 was first introduced.. it was selling for 13-14k, 2 years later.. the price suddenly increased to 17,800

anyone in his right mind would therefore look at the second hand market, which presents us with two results or.. scenarios.. increase in demand for second hand IS300's, and an increase in a "automobile opportunity cost" for the current IS300 owner.

the opportunity cost has 2 major drivers in the automobile market.. other cars of the same Genre, same price.. or, newer model of the same car. when both them are considerably higher.. the shared denominator, in this case the IS300's second hand value remains unchanged.



I agree with what ur saying in principle

but the IS300 is not an exception..

all of the Toyota's and Lexus's tend to hold their value in bahrain..because the dealer is EKK

look at when Subaru was taken over by EKK... their sales went from 0 in a year to 10-12 cars a month...

the car didn't change.. the dealer did...



so the point is, when EKK sells it the demand follows it...

but even then...

it's not like german and american cars don't have demand in bahrain.. and the still depreciate like crazy...

even porsche's don't seem immune to it anymore...

u can get a 997 turbo for under 30K now...


remember when the Z06 came out it started at 25k new.. now it's 30k..

currency fluctuantions in the yen also added to the price hikes for the IS.. and the dollar got pwnd internationally didn't help


as for the ISF

it's sporty.. but not THAT sporty.. when compared to the M3.. (which is harder stiffer lighter heavier steering, not an auto etc)

and in bahrain.. ppl love big engines...

GS430 over 300
S500 over S350
750 over 735
they just want to have the highest number badge on the back of the car

ppl might buy the ISF just cuz it has "8 cylinders"

who knows they might sell more IS-F's if they badge it as a IS-500 LOL

[BRN996TT]

its all linked to supply demand.. if the car is in demand.. the price wont drop as fast.

now, thats not the case with the IS-F, since the IS300's demand is driven by a plethoura of demographics and age groups in both males and females, the IS-F will surely have a smaller market.

in this case, its up to supply to drive the price of the IS-F.. since the supply wont be as high, the demand can still be much smaller and still hold the same equilibrium.

another factor that went into the IS300 holding its price is the price increase at the Dealer, when the IS300 was first introduced.. it was selling for 13-14k, 2 years later.. the price suddenly increased to 17,800

anyone in his right mind would therefore look at the second hand market, which presents us with two results or.. scenarios.. increase in demand for second hand IS300's, and an increase in a "automobile opportunity cost" for the current IS300 owner.

the opportunity cost has 2 major drivers in the automobile market.. other cars of the same Genre, same price.. or, newer model of the same car. when both them are considerably higher.. the shared denominator, in this case the IS300's second hand value remains unchanged.

the price jumped is because of one factor

when the car was launched the yen was around 118 to 122
now the yen is around 87 to 90 the currency jumped an average 24 percent
and from year model every year the manufacture adds 1.5 percent in some cases
and the car had a face lift last year which added a value of 750 with rear led lights and new front bumper and fog light and re designed grill plus small changes in interior

[SAMoloGY]

thanx for sharing that.

though i didnt say that the increase was uncalled for, rather.. i just stated the fact that it did in fact happen.

[BRN996TT]

thanx for sharing that.

though i didnt say that the increase was uncalled for, rather.. i just stated the fact that it did in fact happen.

i know man

but just before anybody says why the prices of lexus and toyota went higher for the past 2.5 years , i gave them the answer

and i'm sure we have bankers in the forum , they can verify that

the currency went up 20 to 25 percent , which is huge this comparing to 2008

if we compare to 2006 it went higher 30 percent

just for information

[SAMoloGY]

I agree with what ur saying in principle

but the IS300 is not an exception..

all of the Toyota's and Lexus's tend to hold their value in bahrain..because the dealer is EKK

look at when Subaru was taken over by EKK... their sales went from 0 in a year to 10-12 cars a month...

the car didn't change.. the dealer did...



so the point is, when EKK sells it the demand follows it...

but even then...

it's not like german and american cars don't have demand in bahrain.. and the still depreciate like crazy...

even porsche's don't seem immune to it anymore...

u can get a 997 turbo for under 30K now...


remember when the Z06 came out it started at 25k new.. now it's 30k..

currency fluctuantions in the yen also added to the price hikes for the IS.. and the dollar got pwnd internationally didn't help


as for the ISF

it's sporty.. but not THAT sporty.. when compared to the M3.. (which is harder stiffer lighter heavier steering, not an auto etc)

and in bahrain.. ppl love big engines...

GS430 over 300
S500 over S350
750 over 735
they just want to have the highest number badge on the back of the car

ppl might buy the ISF just cuz it has "8 cylinders"

who knows they might sell more IS-F's if they badge it as a IS-500 LOL

u do know that the GS430, s500 and 750 are harder to sell than their smaller engine siblings right?

considering their original price, they endure a much higher depreciation rate.

example.. the price difference between a new GS430 and GS300 is around 7-8k, while on the second hand market, theyre sometimes priced within 500BD difference.

people who can afford to buy a new car would opt for the bigger engine because they might want the options that come with it, performance and status.. while people who are looking for a second hand car think of difference factors such as fuel consumption, availability and price of parts, etc. which are not necessarily cheaper, but.. thats how the mind thinks in this part of the world.

[BRN996TT]

u do know that the GS430, s500 and 750 are harder to sell than their smaller engine siblings right?

considering their original price, they endure a much higher depreciation rate.

example.. the price difference between a new GS430 and GS300 is around 7-8k, while on the second hand market, theyre sometimes priced within 500BD difference.

people who can afford to buy a new car would opt for the bigger engine because they might want the options that come with it, performance and status.. while people who are looking for a second hand car think of difference factors such as fuel consumption, availability and price of parts, etc. which are not necessarily cheaper, but.. thats how the mind thinks in this part of the world.

correction my friend GS430 AND GS300 was only 1900 bd differnce
gs 460 and gs 300 is only 2300 bd

[SAMoloGY]

btw.. i took automobile marketing as an elective in college, one of the most interesting subjects ive ever done! although most of the contect was based on Holden vs. Ford.. u could relate it to any brand in any part of the world.

[SAMoloGY]

correction my friend GS430 AND GS300 was only 1900 bd differnce
gs 460 and gs 300 is only 2300 bd

and THATS exactly why we have u on the forum!

thanx for clarifying that.. u can switch the words GS300 and GS430 to BMW 735 and 740 and my theory would be right again :)

[designo]

I visit the lexus forums alot, and almost every one in the USA suffers from fuel problems! Most of them run on 91 octane fuel, some others run on 93. But they all suffer from carbon build-up!
Direct Fuel Injection cars are forcing countries to clean up their fuels like Europe and Japan!

[Kayman]

One easy way to get rid of the carbon buildup in DFI's is to drive the car hard :D