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zcoupe
September 28th, 2010, 10:23 AM
Guys,

The ISF has reached our shores finally......guess they have received 4 cars for now.... 32K each!!

Ottoman
September 28th, 2010, 10:56 AM
yeah I saw a black one in the showroom....

finally we got some more sport car variety in this country

Phoenix
September 28th, 2010, 11:23 AM
32K on an ISF or a Z06 ....

hmmmm


tough choice :p :lol:

Bu.shaheen
September 28th, 2010, 11:32 AM
32K on an ISF or a Z06 ....

hmmmm


tough choice :p :lol:

ZO6 any time:clap:

BRN996TT
September 28th, 2010, 01:03 PM
Compare apple to apple

how much is m3 fully loaded

how mush is rs4 fully loaded

how much is c63 fully loaded

the price in showroom is retail

once you guys get the other car prices , then we will do the debate :)

gulf gt all ways compare to z06 or to vette

change the name from gulfgt to zo6 fans.com

Rashdi
September 28th, 2010, 01:04 PM
At that price the ISF has a very weak value proposition for the average performance car buyer.

I just speced out an ISF on the Lexus website and it came out at $68,405 thats around BD 25,700/-

Im sorry but for that price id get something else

BRN996TT
September 28th, 2010, 01:53 PM
At that price the ISF has a very weak value proposition for the average performance car buyer.

I just speced out an ISF on the Lexus website and it came out at $68,405 thats around BD 25,700/-

Im sorry but for that price id get something else

price in us add tax + luxury tax + reg + gas guzzler + shipping to bahrain + 5 percent bahrain tax

and then tell me its cheaper

people always act they know better

p.s. the car in american website its not fully loaded , the gcc spec has 50 changes more than us spec

also this is the 2011 facelift model , which should be out in oct of this year

i got mine from usa in 2007 from usa for 26000 paid shipping 1500 + 5 percent tax bahrain about 1200

total was 28,700 bd this was when the yen was 122 , now yen is 85 do the math

= STINGER=
September 28th, 2010, 02:21 PM
Compare apple to apple

how much is m3 fully loaded

how mush is rs4 fully loaded

how much is c63 fully loaded

the price in showroom is retail

once you guys get the other car prices , then we will do the debate :)

gulf gt all ways compare to z06 or to vette

change the name from gulfgt to zo6 fans.com

hehheeheheh x2 :headbang: el ZZZZZZZ

Kayman
September 28th, 2010, 02:30 PM
IS whaaaa? :nofear:

BLOODLINE
September 28th, 2010, 02:49 PM
Amazing car, it has always been the best in its class in my opinion, thanks to forza motorsports! :p

I love it!

Rider
September 28th, 2010, 03:47 PM
Hmm, without adding anything the ISF costs $59k - and the GS460 costs $55k. The difference is 1.5k BD. SO will the 2011 GS460 cost 30k BD ??
Anyways.. my hope of trading in for an ISF is gone ..:lol:

Rashdi
September 28th, 2010, 04:59 PM
price in us add tax + luxury tax + reg + gas guzzler + shipping to bahrain + 5 percent bahrain tax

and then tell me its cheaper

people always act they know better

p.s. the car in american website its not fully loaded , the gcc spec has 50 changes more than us spec

also this is the 2011 facelift model , which should be out in oct of this year

i got mine from usa in 2007 from usa for 26000 paid shipping 1500 + 5 percent tax bahrain about 1200

total was 28,700 bd this was when the yen was 122 , now yen is 85 do the math

Regardless of its price its a very nice car with top notch finishing and very competitive performance and most importantly a capable dealer allah ewafigkm ma3a il sale

SAMoloGY
September 28th, 2010, 06:42 PM
IS whaaaa? :nofear:

IS 300!! :headbang:

grafix143
September 28th, 2010, 06:59 PM
gulf gt all ways compare to z06 or to vette

change the name from gulfgt to zo6 fans.com

hahahahah loooooooooool u hit hard
its LSx fans

Quarantine
September 28th, 2010, 08:04 PM
Compare apple to apple

how much is m3 fully loaded

how mush is rs4 fully loaded

how much is c63 fully loaded

the price in showroom is retail

once you guys get the other car prices , then we will do the debate :)

gulf gt all ways compare to z06 or to vette

change the name from gulfgt to zo6 fans.com

X2
Z06 and ISF are in a totally different class. Can't be compared.
vs competition and factoring in the high value of the Japanese Yen. that seems like a good deal.

designo
September 28th, 2010, 09:45 PM
You are wrong! In GulfGT, everything must be compared to a chevy! Otherwise it will not pass the "best bang for the buck" test!

Splash
September 29th, 2010, 12:05 AM
hahahahah loooooooooool u hit hard
its LSx fans

No... It's www.plasticcarsfans.com :D

Rider
September 29th, 2010, 12:06 AM
Since the IS is presumably going to get a full model change in 2012, this generation of ISF was introduced a bit late in the Gulf :/ ....

OBBI
September 29th, 2010, 11:39 AM
isf = great car, u guys cant compare cars such as the isf, m3, c63, rs4, ctsv to the z06, the isf owner wants a nice interior wants luxury and something that wont break his back every day on our roads. thats something that the z06 just cant offer. IMO the isf and m3 are the the top of their class, when im ready to buy my next car i would consider it as an option.

Phoenix
September 29th, 2010, 12:27 PM
Compare apple to apple

how much is m3 fully loaded

how mush is rs4 fully loaded

how much is c63 fully loaded

the price in showroom is retail

once you guys get the other car prices , then we will do the debate :)

gulf gt all ways compare to z06 or to vette

change the name from gulfgt to zo6 fans.com

ok, so first of all.. i was being sarcastic. i know its in a different class than the Z06.

secondly, nothing wrong with the Z06. i'd take it over the ISF any day. it has more power, better handling, better power:weight ratio, its better looking, it ACTUALLY IS a sports car, has leather, NAV, great stereo, easily maintained, easy and simple mods will get u great output results, doesn't share its chassis with a DIFFERENT car, and best of all.. it turns more heads than the ISF :D

with all due respect to your dealership, this is my point of view and comparison :)

and.. if i wanted a sports sedan in the SAME class as the ISF, RS4, C63.. i would get a CTS-V with my eyes closed :bounce:

= STINGER=
September 29th, 2010, 01:56 PM
ok, so first of all.. i was being sarcastic. i know its in a different class than the Z06.

secondly, nothing wrong with the Z06. i'd take it over the ISF any day. it has more power, better handling, better power:weight ratio, its better looking, it ACTUALLY IS a sports car, has leather, NAV, great stereo, easily maintained, easy and simple mods will get u great output results, doesn't share its chassis with a DIFFERENT car, and best of all.. it turns more heads than the ISF :D

with all due respect to your dealership, this is my point of view and comparison :)

kalaaaam jameeeeeel

maXmood
September 29th, 2010, 02:24 PM
ok, what can we compare the IS-F with?

v6
luxury
sedan

Ottoman
September 29th, 2010, 02:54 PM
ok, so first of all.. i was being sarcastic. i know its in a different class than the Z06.

secondly, nothing wrong with the Z06. i'd take it over the ISF any day. it has more power, better handling, better power:weight ratio, its better looking, it ACTUALLY IS a sports car, has leather, NAV, great stereo, easily maintained, easy and simple mods will get u great output results, doesn't share its chassis with a DIFFERENT car, and best of all.. it turns more heads than the ISF :D

with all due respect to your dealership, this is my point of view and comparison :)

and.. if i wanted a sports sedan in the SAME class as the ISF, RS4, C63.. i would get a CTS-V with my eyes closed :bounce:

i can't believe we're having this arguement

but since ur being biased.. then i'll play devils advocate and support the IS-F

IS-F:

Build quality far superior
road noise/comfort/NVH
better dealer and support
material quality (american leather is terrible plastic coated crap)
luxury
looks are subjective
service intervals are infrequent
PRACTICALITY
storage space,
speed bumps are not an issue
SAFETY (paper mache z06 is cancelled if u more than cough on it)

the IS-F is a more mature more refined car..

z06 is a young rich kid, or mid age crisis car...

bankers lawyers doctors etc(executives) wont drive Z06's to work..
they'll be driving the german cars..

and that's what ISF is trying to compete with..

not the weekend car like the Z06

S-197
September 29th, 2010, 03:31 PM
ok, what can we compare the IS-F with?

v6
luxury
sedan
you mean with v8
luxury
sedan

RS4 & C63 & M3 = NA, V8, 4 doors

Shihaby
September 29th, 2010, 04:25 PM
gulf gt all ways compare to z06 or to vette

change the name from gulfgt to zo6 fans.com

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!

Fil 9ameem! :lol: :lol: :lol:

BRN996TT
September 29th, 2010, 07:17 PM
ok, so first of all.. i was being sarcastic. i know its in a different class than the Z06.

secondly, nothing wrong with the Z06. i'd take it over the ISF any day. it has more power, better handling, better power:weight ratio, its better looking, it ACTUALLY IS a sports car, has leather, NAV, great stereo, easily maintained, easy and simple mods will get u great output results, doesn't share its chassis with a DIFFERENT car, and best of all.. it turns more heads than the ISF :D

with all due respect to your dealership, this is my point of view and comparison :)

and.. if i wanted a sports sedan in the SAME class as the ISF, RS4, C63.. i would get a CTS-V with my eyes closed :bounce:


from what you wrote i just want to correct one thing

the z06 might turn more heads only in fudruckers adliya period , looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooool

Phoenix
September 29th, 2010, 07:35 PM
i can't believe we're having this arguement

but since ur being biased.. then i'll play devils advocate and support the IS-F

IS-F:

Build quality far superior
road noise/comfort/NVH
better dealer and support
material quality (american leather is terrible plastic coated crap)
luxury
looks are subjective
service intervals are infrequent
PRACTICALITY
storage space,
speed bumps are not an issue
SAFETY (paper mache z06 is cancelled if u more than cough on it)

the IS-F is a more mature more refined car..

z06 is a young rich kid, or mid age crisis car...

bankers lawyers doctors etc(executives) wont drive Z06's to work..
they'll be driving the german cars..

and that's what ISF is trying to compete with..

not the weekend car like the Z06

oh dear Onur, you just had to drop in, didnt you? :p

ok so let me get this straight .. im talking about what a car can offer as a SPORTS car with basic needs vs market price .. and u demand luxury, storage space, and practicality? oh, and ground clearance?

did u even see that i wrote " if i wanted a sports sedan in the SAME class as the ISF, RS4, C63.. i would get a CTS-V". or did u just ignore that sentence ?

PERFORMNCE vs PRICE people!

u should know.. u owned 3 RX7's. Why did u buy them? Price correct? and u know u can make them FLY with a small investment and kill mostely anything on the street especially after u got that engine of yours ;) oh, and u also own a bike. does it have a trunk? why didnt u choose something more PRACTICAL to drive around? or is it a weekend bike? and i dont think executives drive any of what u own to work. im not being personal or anything, just speaking the contradiction of what u say and what u actually think.

and i think ur smart enough to get my point :)

Splash
September 29th, 2010, 07:35 PM
hahahahahaaaa :D

Phoenix
September 29th, 2010, 07:36 PM
from what you wrote i just want to correct one thing

the z06 might turn more heads only in fudruckers adliya period , looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooool

yea maybe, and it also turns heads in Nurburgring and sets numbers an ISF dreams of looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

sorry, but im not the type that gets offended by cars :lol: but nice try EK

designo
September 29th, 2010, 08:21 PM
Pheonix, it's obvious that you're arguing for the sake of arguing! You don't have a case but your ego says otherwise!

Ottoman
September 29th, 2010, 11:05 PM
oh dear Onur, you just had to drop in, didnt you? :p

ok so let me get this straight .. im talking about what a car can offer as a SPORTS car with basic needs vs market price .. and u demand luxury, storage space, and practicality? oh, and ground clearance?

did u even see that i wrote " if i wanted a sports sedan in the SAME class as the ISF, RS4, C63.. i would get a CTS-V". or did u just ignore that sentence ?

PERFORMNCE vs PRICE people!

u should know.. u owned 3 RX7's. Why did u buy them? Price correct? and u know u can make them FLY with a small investment and kill mostely anything on the street especially after u got that engine of yours ;) oh, and u also own a bike. does it have a trunk? why didnt u choose something more PRACTICAL to drive around? or is it a weekend bike? and i dont think executives drive any of what u own to work. im not being personal or anything, just speaking the contradiction of what u say and what u actually think.

and i think ur smart enough to get my point :)


I was annoyed that z06 and ISF were even compared..

it's like comparing a LX570 to a S4

there is no comparison to make in teh first place...

I didn't say the IS-F is for a guy like me..

I just said the target market for the ISF and Z06 are different..

just like the guy who buys a Phaeton and a guy who buys a F430

just cuz they cost the same doesn't make them equals...

and like I said, I was playing devils advocate...

ISF is not designed as a bang for teh buck sports car either...

and motorcycles will always beat cars in that category anyway...

u should of just made ur reply one line with " if i wanted a sports sedan in the SAME class as the ISF, RS4, C63.. i would get a CTS-V".

and left the rest out..

and i would of agreed with u.. and replied with an "x2" post

:p

Rider
September 29th, 2010, 11:24 PM
A CTS-V is not in the same class as the ISF/M3/RS4 btw. ITs in the same class as the M5/XFR/E63.. unless your basing your comparison on price "only". And you should have compared the ISF with a C6, not a Z06... prices aside.

Shihaby
September 30th, 2010, 02:04 AM
And you should have compared the ISF with a C6, not a Z06... prices aside.

You shouldn't be comparing Lexus to Chevrolet... ever!

It's like comparing champagne with beer :lol:

Phoenix
September 30th, 2010, 09:02 AM
Pheonix, it's obvious that you're arguing for the sake of arguing! You don't have a case but your ego says otherwise!

takes one to know one :lol:


I was annoyed that z06 and ISF were even compared..

it's like comparing a LX570 to a S4

there is no comparison to make in teh first place...

I didn't say the IS-F is for a guy like me..

I just said the target market for the ISF and Z06 are different..

just like the guy who buys a Phaeton and a guy who buys a F430

just cuz they cost the same doesn't make them equals...

and like I said, I was playing devils advocate...

ISF is not designed as a bang for teh buck sports car either...

and motorcycles will always beat cars in that category anyway...

u should of just made ur reply one line with " if i wanted a sports sedan in the SAME class as the ISF, RS4, C63.. i would get a CTS-V".

and left the rest out..

and i would of agreed with u.. and replied with an "x2" post

:p

target market is the same dont u think? just different car class category. but almost same price with one having the power and handling advantage over the other.

anyways, i made my point. and u got it with my quote :p Thank you

NOS4EVER
September 30th, 2010, 02:31 PM
You are wrong! In GulfGT, everything must be compared to a chevy! Otherwise it will not pass the "best bang for the buck" test!

100% right on the spot and we only have 3 ZO6 owners :)

K.9978
September 30th, 2010, 02:54 PM
American Plastic is the best.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefUveqRM.CIA0qajzbkF/SIG=12a7oc5th/EXP=1285933999/**http%3a//sondrak.com/images/uploads/thats_racist_wai.jpg

ZOSicK
October 1st, 2010, 01:10 AM
Good to have it atlast in Bahrain yet it's kinda iver priced IMO but so are the beemers and mercs an porkers etc


And don't even compare the ISF to the Z its just not right according to laws of physics :grin:

= STINGER=
October 1st, 2010, 02:29 AM
wenah wein el ISF

but its a sexy car

ZOSicK
October 1st, 2010, 10:30 AM
wenah wein el ISF

but its a sexy car

Yup would love to get one in white one day :up2:

I would have got one instantly if it was in the 24 or 25k range but not 32k

I can get alot of cool stuff if I only add 3 more thousands to it

designo
October 1st, 2010, 12:53 PM
I just realised that there are only 2 toyota's out there with OEM 400hp+ power! This one and the tundra right?

Rider
October 1st, 2010, 02:25 PM
I just realised that there are only 2 toyota's out there with OEM 400hp+ power! This one and the tundra right?

LS600 - ISF - LFA are all 400+

Tundra produces 380hp

KLEEMANN
October 1st, 2010, 03:17 PM
LS600 - ISF - LFA are all 400+

Tundra produces 380hp

Thats lexus. no toyota got out the production line with 400hp+ IMK !

designo
October 1st, 2010, 03:18 PM
Was just waiting for some toyota nerd to correct me!

Rider
October 1st, 2010, 03:26 PM
Back to topic, Can we Test Drive one?

Lutfalla R35
October 1st, 2010, 03:59 PM
Thats lexus. no toyota got out the production line with 400hp+ IMK !

And what's lexus? It's TOYOTA! Change the Brand = Higher price tag .. In Japan it's Toyota not lexus

Lutfalla R35
October 1st, 2010, 04:09 PM
Back to topic, Can we Test Drive one?

It's not a Corrolla my friend :smilelol:

Striker
October 1st, 2010, 04:20 PM
I don't like the IS-F.

BLOODLINE
October 1st, 2010, 04:39 PM
It's not a Corrolla my friend :smilelol:
I dont think you can test drive a Corolla either :lol:

= STINGER=
October 1st, 2010, 05:31 PM
^^^^^ hahahahah

Rider
October 2nd, 2010, 01:37 AM
And what's lexus? It's TOYOTA! Change the Brand = Higher price tag .. In Japan it's Toyota not lexus

?????? Where do you get your info from... in Japan its Lexus too... Infiniti in Japan is Nissan... dont get mixed up :)

Ottoman
October 2nd, 2010, 11:17 AM
Lexus only launched it's badge in japan recently.
Obviously u don't remember the Celsior and altezza and soarer and aristo etc etc

Kayman
October 2nd, 2010, 03:03 PM
slow and overpriced :D

jk brn996TT :)

= STINGER=
October 2nd, 2010, 03:14 PM
^^^ ebo6 el cayman baaaaaaaa6 :p

Lutfalla R35
October 2nd, 2010, 07:00 PM
?????? Where do you get your info from... in Japan its Lexus too... Infiniti in Japan is Nissan... dont get mixed up :)

mashalla u r so updated .. make sure when u google something next time read the hole thing :)

OK SORRY .. IT WAS :D

Shihaby
October 2nd, 2010, 08:20 PM
mashalla u r so updated .. make sure when u google something next time read the hole thing :)

OK SORRY .. IT WAS :D

5ala9 gal lak don't get mixed up :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bo eBRahiM
October 3rd, 2010, 12:48 PM
isf over zoplatic6 anyday

BeNZi
October 17th, 2010, 02:42 AM
The IS-F in my opinion is a far better choice and bang for the buck, even at 32K when compared to the chevys! The Zo6 or C6 are wannabe sports cars!...they try to give you a big experience for a fraction of the price, and forget that quality, technology, engineering, comfort and safety are the essentials of any car, whether it be sports or luxury!

Quarantine
October 17th, 2010, 05:55 AM
The Zo6 or C6 are wannabe sports cars!...
:thinking2:thinking2:stickpok::blink:

Bu.shaheen
October 17th, 2010, 06:00 AM
The IS-F in my opinion is a far better choice and bang for the buck, even at 32K when compared to the chevys! The Zo6 or C6 are wannabe sports cars!...they try to give you a big experience for a fraction of the price, and forget that quality, technology, engineering, comfort and safety are the essentials of any car, whether it be sports or luxury!

you are so wrong my friend ,, :alcoholic ?

CantBeatZ06
October 17th, 2010, 07:10 AM
Z06 became a wannabe sport car?


hmmm...

ZOSicK
October 17th, 2010, 07:36 AM
Hahahhahaha Benz I couldnt Stop laughin at your noon comment :smilelol:

So given the choice between the ISF and a Carrera S 2011 u what would u pick? Oh ya the Carrera ! By wait the C6 breaks all it's times track and on straight line oh $hit then that makes it a wanna be sport car again guess I will stay with the family's Lexus for now :grin:

A.Z
October 17th, 2010, 07:47 AM
gulf gt all ways compare to z06 or to vette

change the name from gulfgt to zo6 fans.com

:lol: true true

JonnybravoM3
October 17th, 2010, 09:55 AM
You shouldn't be comparing Lexus to Chevrolet... ever!

It's like comparing champagne with beer :lol:

Saki with Beer...

JonnybravoM3
October 17th, 2010, 09:58 AM
Phoenix -- If you want to compare the Z06 with something, you need to do so with the Lexus LFA and not the ISF.

Phoenix
October 17th, 2010, 10:09 AM
Phoenix -- If you want to compare the Z06 with something, you need to do so with the Lexus LFA and not the ISF.

7aboob, i think ur smart enough to get my point. but it seems that u didnt! :nono2:

maXmood
October 17th, 2010, 10:51 AM
Z06 is a sport car wannabe now? lol

designo
October 17th, 2010, 11:01 AM
Walla you want a real sports car? Get the Porsche Cayman S. Best value for money and engineering quality is non questionable!

A.Z
October 17th, 2010, 11:50 AM
7aboob, i think ur smart enough to get my point. but it seems that u didnt! :nono2:
ma3alee.. yom elyom 7a6o 3alaik,, bacher ye76on 3ala '3airek...

Phoenix
October 17th, 2010, 12:11 PM
Walla you want a real sports car? Get the Porsche Cayman S. Best value for money and engineering quality is non questionable!

x2. i like the Cayman S :up2: especially when it comes with PDK.

i think the Cayman S fully loaded is around 26K right?

maXmood
October 17th, 2010, 12:14 PM
x2. i like the Cayman S :up2: especially when it comes with PDK.

i think the Cayman S fully loaded is around 26K right?

something around 28k if i'm not mistaken.

Rider
October 17th, 2010, 01:16 PM
I want the option to cool ma *** while driving, so ima choose the ISF over any vette :/

designo
October 17th, 2010, 02:11 PM
x2. i like the Cayman S :up2: especially when it comes with PDK.

i think the Cayman S fully loaded is around 26K right?


something around 28k if i'm not mistaken.

I'm sure it's less, but let's wait what Karoom has to say since he bought one!

designo
October 17th, 2010, 02:12 PM
I want the option to cool ma *** while driving, so ima choose the ISF over any vette :/

That's a matter of preference, because if you want a car to heat your assss on fire... vette is the car! :laf: And if you want a mobile sauna.. get a viper!

CantBeatZ06
October 17th, 2010, 02:26 PM
Hahahhahaha Benz I couldnt Stop laughin at your noon comment :smilelol:

So given the choice between the ISF and a Carrera S 2011 u what would u pick? Oh ya the Carrera ! By wait the C6 breaks all it's times track and on straight line oh $hit then that makes it a wanna be sport car again guess I will stay with the family's Lexus for now :grin:

Sorry man but get a sport car first then talk about porsches.


may6ee7 haa? hehe

ADM
October 17th, 2010, 02:42 PM
The IS-F in my opinion is a far better choice and bang for the buck, even at 32K when compared to the chevys! The Zo6 or C6 are wannabe sports cars!...they try to give you a big experience for a fraction of the price, and forget that quality, technology, engineering, comfort and safety are the essentials of any car, whether it be sports or luxury!

I vote, most epic fail of the year.

KLEEMANN
October 17th, 2010, 02:46 PM
Walla you want a real sports car? Get the Porsche Cayman S. Best value for money and engineering quality is non questionable!


x2. i like the Cayman S :up2: especially when it comes with PDK.

i think the Cayman S fully loaded is around 26K right?


I'm sure it's less, but let's wait what Karoom has to say since he bought one!

for these comments kayman own you guys milkshake from fuddz!!!

BeNZi
October 17th, 2010, 03:06 PM
very typical....all the american car owners laugh at my post...whilst your shitty american 'beasts' break records, they also break your bones, and break themselves! if thats what u think a true sports car should be, then sure....enjoy your fibreglass! it isnt difficult making power buddy, im sure even kia can come up with a more powerful car than a C6 for a far cheaper price...but thats not what its about! think about quality...these cars are not cars that will in 50 years time be remembered, because there probably wont be any around!

As for bang for the buck and quality engineering, i couldnt agree more with designo, the cayman S is truly a great car! especially with PDK!

ZoSick - do you not know anything about cars? i dont post much on this forum, but i do read it very often....there are just some things that you cannot compare.....do you really compare a carrera S to a is-f? in terms of what? usually when people choose what car they want to buy, they consider whether they want a 2 seater, 4 seater or a jeep! how about we look at the basics of reviewing cars first before you start making jokes on others!

Ottoman
October 17th, 2010, 03:08 PM
careful when you throw around the word "Full options" on a porsche... it can double the price of the car..

u even have to pay for your floor mats and badges!

ADM
October 17th, 2010, 03:44 PM
very typical....all the american car owners laugh at my post...whilst your shitty american 'beasts' break records, they also break your bones, and break themselves! if thats what u think a true sports car should be, then sure....enjoy your fibreglass! it isnt difficult making power buddy, im sure even kia can come up with a more powerful car than a C6 for a far cheaper price...but thats not what its about! think about quality...these cars are not cars that will in 50 years time be remembered, because there probably wont be any around!

As for bang for the buck and quality engineering, i couldnt agree more with designo, the cayman S is truly a great car! especially with PDK!

ZoSick - do you not know anything about cars? i dont post much on this forum, but i do read it very often....there are just some things that you cannot compare.....do you really compare a carrera S to a is-f? in terms of what? usually when people choose what car they want to buy, they consider whether they want a 2 seater, 4 seater or a jeep! how about we look at the basics of reviewing cars first before you start making jokes on others!

You just called a sports car...a wannabe sports car and the more powerful better handling version of a luxury sedan, a real sports car. What were you expecting as a reaction? Go and post this on any automotive forum and give us links for the threads, I am interested in seeing the replies.

Hey, at least when your racing a C6 or a Z06, you will be losing in luxury. That has got to be worth something, right?

maXmood
October 17th, 2010, 05:31 PM
^+1 .... we're not all american sports car fans, but we agree on the basic facts.

since when luxury was something you should be looking for in a sports car? how about some fur on the dashboard. :lol:

Death666wish_
October 17th, 2010, 05:51 PM
There are cars, and there is Ferrari!

Rider
October 17th, 2010, 05:53 PM
^+1 .... we're not all american sports car fans, but we agree on the basic facts.

since when luxury was something you should be looking for in a sports car? how about some fur on the dashboard. :lol:

Since it is an option that we can opt for?? Why not combine both if we can..

Kayman
October 17th, 2010, 06:01 PM
Hahahhahaha Benz I couldnt Stop laughin at your noon comment :smilelol:

So given the choice between the ISF and a Carrera S 2011 u what would u pick? Oh ya the Carrera ! By wait the C6 breaks all it's times track and on straight line oh $hit then that makes it a wanna be sport car again guess I will stay with the family's Lexus for now :grin:

Carerra s walks all over the c6

The carera s pdk is no joke

Rider
October 17th, 2010, 09:36 PM
Carerra s walks all over the c6

The carera s pdk is no joke

For its price, i'd buy a GT-R :)

ZOSicK
October 17th, 2010, 10:23 PM
ZoSick - do you not know anything about cars? i dont post much on this forum, but i do read it very often....there are just some things that you cannot compare.....do you really compare a carrera S to a is-f? in terms of what? usually when people choose what car they want to buy, they consider whether they want a 2 seater, 4 seater or a jeep! how about we look at the basics of reviewing cars first before you start making jokes on others!

yes i compare both since both are so called sport and fast cars .. they both range the same price .. the topic here was about the ISF and its price TAG nothing to do with the vette u brought into the subject

i i want a real 4 door monster that can rip anything off you know very well what i will get right ??? yes your so right a frikin CTS-V let me see ur cheap a$$ ISF beat it on track, straightline, Quality, Ride, Comfort or Handeling

its the real deal out there as of now wetherr ur a hater or not gotta admit that its one hell of a ride ..

dont insult our intelligence coz u just made a fool out of urself with your "wanna be sport car" post for crying out loud

once again i would love to remind u that the topic was THE ISF and was the price tag worth it or not .. add 3 or 4k over the 32k price tag and u get the cayman S , various BMW's, etc we were talkin bout the price and not comparing cars

and talkin bout plastic none of my earlier american cars including the camaro had its paint chipped off the front bumper for going over 160km every now and then ,, thats one of the reasons i sold my IS300 a year after i got it not mentioning the common issue with the sound underneath the dash right in the center .. talk about quality ha ?? :grin:

= STINGER=
October 17th, 2010, 10:32 PM
The IS-F in my opinion is a far better choice and bang for the buck, even at 32K when compared to the chevys! The Zo6 or C6 are wannabe sports cars!...they try to give you a big experience for a fraction of the price, and forget that quality, technology, engineering, comfort and safety are the essentials of any car, whether it be sports or luxury!

1st - dnt compare this toyota ISF with z06 or c6 ... the Z06 u can compare it with the 10000000$ LFA o ashek ena yegdar 3al Z06
2nd - vette wannabe sport car ... oo yeea 9a7e7
3rd - 32k ??!! ill buy M3 ..CTS-V or carrera S over this thing :)

= STINGER=
October 17th, 2010, 10:38 PM
frikin CTS-V let me see ur cheap a$$ ISF beat it on track, straightline, Quality, Ride, Comfort or Handeling

its the real deal out there as of now wetherr ur a hater or not gotta admit that its one hell of a ride ..



la la CTS-V plastic mob shay lmao :D

cmon gimme 1 thing el ISF better then the CTS-V

G35 S
October 18th, 2010, 08:47 AM
^^ The Ricey Exhaust Tips.

And the annoying RPM warning Beep that warns u b4 hitting the Rev Limiter.

:tome:

CantBeatZ06
October 18th, 2010, 08:54 AM
for 32k i can buy used ZR1 b3ad..

= STINGER=
October 18th, 2010, 08:59 AM
^^^ afa bas 3abod afa .... Etfshlny lol :p

Phoenix
October 18th, 2010, 09:37 AM
for 32k i can buy used ZR1 b3ad..

gimme 25K and i'll get u a slightly used 997 GT3 !!

CantBeatZ06
October 18th, 2010, 09:42 AM
gimme 25K and i'll get u a slightly used 997 GT3 !!

e7lf?! yalla which is better 997 gt3 or getting a GTR for 25k?

keep in mind modding is a must! lol

Phoenix
October 18th, 2010, 10:21 AM
e7lf?! yalla which is better 997 gt3 or getting a GTR for 25k?

keep in mind modding is a must! lol

modding both cars will cost aprox. the same.

it aint cheap modding the R35 u know :p

Ottoman
October 18th, 2010, 10:48 AM
and the GT3's tranny wont explode.. or require software updates :p

ADM
October 18th, 2010, 11:05 AM
^^ The Ricey Exhaust Tips.

And the annoying RPM warning Beep that warns u b4 hitting the Rev Limiter.

:tome:

Oh yeah, how could I have forgotten about the faggoty ricer fake exhaust tips. But I am sure every "true sports car" had them right?

WAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHA AAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIII

designo
October 18th, 2010, 11:09 AM
^^ The Ricey Exhaust Tips.

And the annoying RPM warning Beep that warns u b4 hitting the Rev Limiter.

:tome:


Oh yeah, how could I have forgotten about the faggoty ricer fake exhaust tips. But I am sure every "true sports car" had them right?

WAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHA AAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIIIII

Are you guys talking about the ISF exhaust tips? If so..

http://motorbeam.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ferrari-california-rear.jpg

Phoenix
October 18th, 2010, 11:20 AM
Are you guys talking about the ISF exhaust tips? If so..

http://motorbeam.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ferrari-california-rear.jpg

functional vs non-functional quad tips

G35 S
October 18th, 2010, 11:39 AM
Are you guys talking about the ISF exhaust tips? If so..

http://motorbeam.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ferrari-california-rear.jpg


functional vs non-functional quad tips

Phoenix juss stole the words out of my mouth :)

Plus im not a fan of those gay lookin exhaust tips. Thats Just me.

maXmood
October 18th, 2010, 11:57 AM
functional vs non-functional quad tips

+1......

Rider
October 18th, 2010, 12:15 PM
Lol.. you guys sure love to btch bout anything :)


1st - dnt compare this toyota ISF with z06 or c6 ... the Z06 u can compare it with the 10000000$ LFA o ashek ena yegdar 3al Z06
2nd - vette wannabe sport car ... oo yeea 9a7e7
3rd - 32k ??!! ill buy M3 ..CTS-V or carrera S over this thing :)

Post of the Year

G35 S
October 18th, 2010, 12:20 PM
Lol.. you guys sure love to btch bout anything :)

N u cant stand any1 bitchin about Lexus can u?

designo
October 18th, 2010, 12:29 PM
Wow, plenty of qualified automotive engineers here I see? Functional o non-functional o madree shinoo!

Just say you don't like it o fuk roo7ok! Don't insult people around here with your BS posts! You guys have no credibility to judge any vehicle in production, all you can do is argue your opinion! No one is going to take anyone of you seriously because you have absolutely no crediility!

G35 S
October 18th, 2010, 12:43 PM
Cool Down Designo, Y u mad?

Here, I said it earlier its gay looking, and again now its GAY lookin!

Better?

Phoenix
October 18th, 2010, 12:45 PM
Wow, plenty of qualified automotive engineers here I see? Functional o non-functional o madree shinoo!

Just say you don't like it o fuk roo7ok! Don't insult people around here with your BS posts! You guys have no credibility to judge any vehicle in production, all you can do is argue your opinion! No one is going to take anyone of you seriously because you have absolutely no crediility!

Sorry Mr. Enzo. almost didnt recognize you :hail:

= STINGER=
October 18th, 2010, 02:12 PM
balaaawi estwa el thread heheheh

tyrant
October 18th, 2010, 02:20 PM
Guys dont take designo too serious.. he's just standing up for lexus so he can keep his warranty!!!

lol

Death666wish_
October 18th, 2010, 03:20 PM
Are you guys talking about the ISF exhaust tips? If so..

http://motorbeam.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ferrari-california-rear.jpg

yeeb lak wa7da ba3dain t7acha!

Rider
October 18th, 2010, 03:25 PM
N u cant stand any1 bitchin about Lexus can u?

their aint a thing to btch about.

BLOODLINE
October 18th, 2010, 03:44 PM
Post of the Year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAIW4tjQCVc

ZO6 is faster

ADM
October 18th, 2010, 03:48 PM
Wow, plenty of qualified automotive engineers here I see? Functional o non-functional o madree shinoo!

Just say you don't like it o fuk roo7ok! Don't insult people around here with your BS posts! You guys have no credibility to judge any vehicle in production, all you can do is argue your opinion! No one is going to take anyone of you seriously because you have absolutely no crediility!

Shut yer gob multimeter boy!

Rider
October 18th, 2010, 03:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAIW4tjQCVc

ZO6 is faster

?? and since when is the Z06 faster than the GTR 0-400??? Straight line speed aside... those two cars can NEVER be compared. farg il sama wal-ar'6 !

Death666wish_
October 18th, 2010, 03:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paiw4tjqcvc

zo6 is faster

fail!!

BLOODLINE
October 18th, 2010, 04:34 PM
?? and since when is the Z06 faster than the GTR 0-400??? Straight line speed aside... those two cars can NEVER be compared. farg il sama wal-ar'6 !
Wala tez3al .. a ZR1?

:p

BLOODLINE
October 18th, 2010, 04:34 PM
fail!!
What is?

Death666wish_
October 18th, 2010, 05:06 PM
What is?

A 150 thousand dinar car barely beat a 45 thousand dinar car ( which is overpriced while the lexus is the price mentioned in the vid)

designo
October 18th, 2010, 05:25 PM
Sorry Mr. Enzo. almost didnt recognize you :hail:

It's OK Pheonix, my post was not addressed at you. You are an exception!


Guys dont take designo too serious.. he's just standing up for lexus so he can keep his warranty!!!

lol

Ironic that the most unreliable BMW car didn't bother with my mods and warranty, and the most reliable Lexus do! :laf:


yeeb lak wa7da ba3dain t7acha!

I can buy one with you in it! Taxi boy!


Shut yer gob multimeter boy!

Foook off mate!

Death666wish_
October 18th, 2010, 06:04 PM
It's OK Pheonix, my post was not addressed at you. You are an exception!



Ironic that the most unreliable BMW car didn't bother with my mods and warranty, and the most reliable Lexus do! :laf:



I can buy one with you in it! Taxi boy!



Foook off mate!
:blahblah:

Death666wish_
October 18th, 2010, 06:14 PM
:kid: فتى التاكسي

Striker
October 18th, 2010, 07:03 PM
The IS-F in my opinion is a far better choice and bang for the buck, even at 32K when compared to the chevys! The Zo6 or C6 are wannabe sports cars!...they try to give you a big experience for a fraction of the price, and forget that quality, technology, engineering, comfort and safety are the essentials of any car, whether it be sports or luxury!

Major fail of the year.....stop logging onto tHis forum or delete what you just wrote or you will be haunted for the rest of your life!!!!!!!!

what were u thinking of when you wrote that????

RIDE HARD
October 18th, 2010, 07:42 PM
the zo6 or c6 are wannabe sports cars!

jeremy clarkson wannabe:naughty:

= STINGER=
October 18th, 2010, 07:47 PM
^^^^^ looool

designo
October 18th, 2010, 08:34 PM
:blahblah:

Agreed


:kid: فتى التاكسي

No you're not!


Major fail of the year.....stop logging onto tHis forum or delete what you just wrote or you will be haunted for the rest of your life!!!!!!!!

what were u thinking of when you wrote that????

What's this "major fail" BS? Yahal intow? Stop this nerd internet talk!

Shihaby
October 18th, 2010, 08:47 PM
Toyota fanboys vs Chevy fanboys


I'll just chill in the Datsun section across the room :grin:

CantBeatZ06
October 18th, 2010, 08:50 PM
?? and since when is the Z06 faster than the GTR 0-400??? Straight line speed aside... those two cars can NEVER be compared. farg il sama wal-ar'6 !

since it joined the 10 second club by hitting 10.74 bone stock while in the other hand the gtr didnt even get into 11 flat.

ZOSicK
October 18th, 2010, 09:30 PM
Fail thread of the year

Kayman
October 18th, 2010, 11:33 PM
bring the isf let me shred it into pieces :nofear:

designo
October 18th, 2010, 11:55 PM
since it joined the 10 second club by hitting 10.74 bone stock while in the other hand the gtr didnt even get into 11 flat.

This post will start a war soon! I know it!

Rider
October 19th, 2010, 12:17 AM
bring the isf let me shred it into pieces :nofear:

Post your mods and ill arrange you a race with my friends F

= STINGER=
October 19th, 2010, 12:26 AM
This post will start a war soon! I know it!


nissan fans ..7ayakm weyana fel 7arb

ADM
October 19th, 2010, 01:34 AM
The IS-F in my opinion is a far better choice and bang for the buck, even at 32K when compared to the chevys! The Zo6 or C6 are wannabe sports cars!...they try to give you a big experience for a fraction of the price, and forget that quality, technology, engineering, comfort and safety are the essentials of any car, whether it be sports or luxury!

I suggest suicide.

Bu.shaheen
October 19th, 2010, 01:47 AM
:tucmo::camper::ar::uzi::blowup::whip:

Shihaby
October 19th, 2010, 03:49 AM
nissan fans ..7ayakm weyana fel 7arb

Forget it! We'll just chill in the back :grin:

Kayman
October 19th, 2010, 06:40 AM
Post your mods and ill arrange you a race with my friends F

I used to rip them when I was stock.

Anyway now mods are in my sig.

I will not reveal my dyno sheet.

NOS4EVER
October 19th, 2010, 07:35 AM
The IS-F in my opinion is a far better choice and bang for the buck, even at 32K when compared to the chevys! The Zo6 or C6 are wannabe sports cars!...they try to give you a big experience for a fraction of the price, and forget that quality, technology, engineering, comfort and safety are the essentials of any car, whether it be sports or luxury!

Send me a P.M with your new nick name loool
Did you sit in the back seats of any IS or ISF?
If you do you will call it sedan wannabe because it has the same legroom
A any sport car or less.

CantBeatZ06
October 19th, 2010, 09:10 AM
its the truth designo.. he asked since when the z06 is faster than gtr in 400m i gave him the numbers o 3laih el 7asbeh ..

its all depends on the rider so .. nvm forget it this became so old execuse but its true hehe ..

isf is a very good looking car and fast .. and i've asked lot of ppl if you have 32k what would you buy? isf or z06 ..

they just kept laughing at me for such a stupid question.

Nissan fans .. استراحة محارب

Striker
October 19th, 2010, 09:18 AM
What's this "major fail" BS? Yahal intow? Stop this nerd internet talk!

Shfeek a7een bel'6ab6 u5000i???

It is the internet you a little legally blonde boy!!!

The IS is a wannabe corolla and the ISF is a wannabe corolla with a 2JZ 6ag ring piston.

Rider
October 19th, 2010, 06:09 PM
I used to rip them when I was stock.

Anyway now mods are in my sig.

I will not reveal my dyno sheet.

Aha, so a 320 hp car can "rip" a 420 hp car. Interesting indeed. Find me a stock Cayman so we can witness this miracle.

Shihaby
October 19th, 2010, 06:21 PM
Aha, so a 320 hp car can "rip" a 420 hp car. Interesting indeed. Find me a stock Cayman so we can witness this miracle.

You're joking right? Have you not considered factors other than hp? :pat:

BLOODLINE
October 19th, 2010, 06:22 PM
Aha, so a 320 hp car can "rip" a 420 hp car. Interesting indeed.
It is interesting for sure, because you cant compare the cars power with hp numbers!

ADM
October 19th, 2010, 06:30 PM
Aha, so a 320 hp car can "rip" a 420 hp car. Interesting indeed. Find me a stock Cayman so we can witness this miracle.

Another post full of FAIL.

This is starting to get really interesting :laughing2

BLUE MACH
October 19th, 2010, 06:50 PM
Aha, so a 320 hp car can "rip" a 420 hp car. Interesting indeed. Find me a stock Cayman so we can witness this miracle.
It's not about how many hp man

اذا تفكيرك جذي لك الحق تقول الجي أس يطوف الموستنج لان أزيد حصان

KLEEMANN
October 19th, 2010, 06:52 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. oh my god this thread is getting funnier by the post!

BLOODLINE
October 19th, 2010, 07:18 PM
The world is going to read all this soon :lol:

Shihaby
October 19th, 2010, 08:01 PM
I nominate this for thread of the year!

And two obvious posts for posts of the year :lol:

Kayman
October 19th, 2010, 09:02 PM
Rider: why not? Have you considered the huge weight difference? The aerodynamics? Gearing? You want to compare an auto skushbox with a dual clutch pdk with launch control.

So many factors but you have the typical Bahraini racer mind... Hp is everything for you guys.

Btw your Lexus has more hp Than the cayman s, yes your faster hahahaha

designo
October 19th, 2010, 09:03 PM
Another post full of FAIL.

This is starting to get really interesting :laughing2

You're starting to become interesting! Good to have you back sayed!

Rider
October 19th, 2010, 10:45 PM
Meh... Cayman weighs 3000 lb - ISF weighs 3800 lb.

I raced a clio which weighs 1100kg and my car weighs 1800k. Difference is almost 100 hp between both cars and I was ahead by almost 2 lights during the 400m run.

Even though weight difference is humongous... HP AND TORQUE will overcome this obstacle... we are talking about 100 HP... not 10 or 20 or 30 or 40.....

Even though cayman S is fast... you wont "rip" any ISF easily my friend.

CantBeatZ06
October 19th, 2010, 11:00 PM
example ..

porsche tubeo pdk pwned the zr1 :P

500hp vs 638hp

Rider
October 19th, 2010, 11:03 PM
^ well a 1 mile race was conducted - Zr1- GT2-GTR-599 - Zr1 pwned all... check it out on youtube.

CantBeatZ06
October 19th, 2010, 11:10 PM
^ well a 1 mile race was conducted - Zr1- GT2-GTR-599 - Zr1 pwned all... check it out on youtube.

my point is .. your racing a porsche .. the last thing you need to worry about is hp .. they just go fast with low hp ..

Rider
October 19th, 2010, 11:15 PM
^ Ma5talafna ma3ak. They are indeed impressive.

jiljil
October 19th, 2010, 11:56 PM
So , whos faster ? ISF or Cayman ?

Rider
October 19th, 2010, 11:58 PM
Lets find out :)

designo
October 20th, 2010, 12:38 AM
If the ISF can beat the 997 Carrera PDK, then the Cayman S is smoked turkey! And THAT... my friend.. is speaking from experience!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUYB09HLGQ4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VrxP0ZIyW4

Striker
October 20th, 2010, 02:09 AM
Wow, this thread is just great.... I love everything about it and im glad that i subscribed to

Gogogogogo keep this thread alive please

Kayman
October 20th, 2010, 06:57 AM
Bring it on rider :nofear:

Shihaby
October 20th, 2010, 07:39 AM
Bring it on rider :nofear:

If you don't call me when this goes down I will kill you!

designo
October 20th, 2010, 08:02 AM
Cayman, if you beat the ISF... milk shake on me!

Kayman
October 20th, 2010, 08:11 AM
Cayman, if you beat the ISF... milk shake on me!

7abeeb galby the only way the isf is faster if we reach speeds of 250km plus where the mighty v8 will obviously have an advantage and gain

Anything from start or rolling it's the crocs game and territory

designo
October 20th, 2010, 08:21 AM
This croc eats V8's and V10's. The ISF is roast duck!

Kayman
October 20th, 2010, 08:52 AM
Sorry man, v10s are too fast!

maXmood
October 20th, 2010, 10:53 AM
Kimo, call me when this goin to happen.. if you win, another milk shake on me..

Rider
October 20th, 2010, 11:09 AM
..... with his list of mods, it would not be a fair race. I want to see a STOCK cayman S beat an ISF

Thug Life
October 20th, 2010, 11:28 AM
^^ ohoooo sandartna ent kila excuse's race the guy oo 5ala9

maXmood
October 20th, 2010, 11:33 AM
..... with his list of mods, it would not be a fair race. I want to see a STOCK cayman S beat an ISF

he's done it before when he was stock, and he passed an ISF.

you got more excuses?

Kayman
October 20th, 2010, 11:41 AM
..... with his list of mods, it would not be a fair race. I want to see a STOCK cayman S beat an ISF

What's the difference? The isf still has more hp even with my mods, so basically the isf is faster according to you :lol:

And I'm done with the isf long before when the croc was stock.

KLEEMANN
October 20th, 2010, 11:47 AM
guys talk technical please! do your homework

2011 lexus ISF

# Engine Type
Gas V8
# Displacement
5.0L/303
# Fuel System
DI/SFI
# SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM
416 @ 6600
# SAE Net Torque @ RPM
371 @ 5200

Base Curb Weight (lbs)
3780

-----------------------------------------------------
2011 cayman s

# Engine Type
Gas Flat 6-cyl
# Displacement
3.4L/207
# Fuel System
SMFI
# SAE Net Horsepower @ RPM
320 @ 6250
# SAE Net Torque @ RPM
273 @ 4400-6000



* Base Curb Weight (lbs)
2943
* Base Curb Weight (lbs)
3009
*

" depending on your options "

Shihaby
October 20th, 2010, 11:50 AM
Kareem! You have 20 hp more than my Altima, I bet it will be a very close race :lol:

Rider
October 20th, 2010, 11:58 AM
Nop, stock Cayman or no race. I just want to prove my point.

Kayman
October 20th, 2010, 12:29 PM
Kareem! You have 20 hp more than my Altima, I bet it will be a very close race :lol:

Put a k&n filter in, I bet you will shred me into pieces :lol:

ED
October 20th, 2010, 12:31 PM
gay thread of the year?

Kayman
October 20th, 2010, 12:33 PM
Nop, stock Cayman or no race. I just want to prove my point.

Here u go this was my video last winter, bone stock... Download it on your phone and sit in the isf and compare :smilelol:

http://www.gulfgt.com/forum/showthread.php?36166-My-CS-PDK-Acceleration&highlight=Pdk+acceleration

ED
October 20th, 2010, 12:35 PM
Here u go this was my video last winter, bone stock... Download it on your phone and sit in the isf and compare

http://www.gulfgt.com/forum/showthread.php?36166-My-CS-PDK-Acceleration&highlight=Pdk+acceleration

:smilelol: na'3aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal.

maXmood
October 20th, 2010, 12:53 PM
Nop, stock Cayman or no race. I just want to prove my point.
................
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu330/cthulhu19887/forum/facepalm/facepalm_4.jpg

Shihaby
October 20th, 2010, 01:05 PM
Post your mods and ill arrange you a race with my friends F


Nop, stock Cayman or no race. I just want to prove my point.

....which is it now?

NOS4EVER
October 20th, 2010, 02:41 PM
Sorry had to close this thread because
So many newbie professors in the site

ZOSicK
October 20th, 2010, 06:11 PM
I say the croc us the winner here from a dig

What do u guys think?

NOS4EVER
October 20th, 2010, 06:19 PM
^^^^Dumm A$$ this thread is closed y3ny banidish kardi