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bint el ba7rain
May 17th, 2004, 12:34 PM
HE WAS not like anyone else his friends from West Chester had ever known - an adventurous dreamer, a driven idealist, part philosopher and part inventor who was bored with college but could rig together a sophisticated alarm system for his summer camp cabin from aluminum foil and a Walkman.

But when 26-year-old Nick Berg walked into the kettle of paranoia and violence that is Iraq, people suddenly didn't see the same guy his buddies from Henderson High knew. Suddenly, Berg's stubborn wanderlust made him a target of suspicion - a religious Jew riding around Mosul in a taxi with a copy of the Koran.

Some U.S. soldiers even wondered if the patriotic Berg was "a wannabe freedom fighter."

Who was the real Nick Berg?

The entire world has now seen the shocking way that the idealistic young man from the Philadelphia suburbs died - beheaded on videotape by ruthless terrorists who claimed his slaying was revenge for American prison abuses.

But there are still as many questions as answers regarding the way that Berg lived - what exactly he was doing in Iraq, why our allies in Iraqi threw him in jail while the FBI investigated him, and what happened in his final days.

With the help of his best friends, Berg's own e-mails and a Pennsylvania soldier familiar with the details of his detainment in Mosul, the Daily News has pieced together a clearer picture of Berg's life in Iraq.

The New York Times is reporting this morning that Berg also sent a lengthy e-mail to his family after he was detained. Among the questions asked, he wrote, were: "Why was I in Iraq? Did I ever make a pipe bomb? Why was I in Iran?"

The Times said he conjectured that their questions arose from some Farsi literature and a book about Iran that he had. Berg wrote that after four days he was transferred to a cellblock that included prisoners charged with petty offenses and suspected "war criminals."

"Word had spread due to the presence of certain items amongst my stuff that I was Israeli," Berg wrote. "So I felt a bit like Arlo Guthrie walking into a jail full of mother rapers and father stabbers as an accused litterbug."

On April 7, the day after he walked out of the Mosul jail on his own terms, he wrote a friend: "I'm currently trying to pick things up with the business and the local contacts, all of whom think I'm the biggest flake in the world now, as well as plan my return trip, which has been complicated by...military closures."

Three days later, Berg disappeared.

In Iraq, an eccentric young man with his own ideas about life became a kind of Rashoman-like figure - the same person perceived by the various players in radically different ways.

His friends insist that Berg's real story is simpler than it looked - that in the most cynical place on earth, he was merely trying to help.

"He was extremely upbeat and optimistic about his work there. He was excited about being able to help," said Tom Clardy, a network analyst in Hershey, Pa., who'd known Berg since seventh grade. "He wanted to go because he felt he had an obligation to help rebuild the infrastructure."

"He was looking for the real thing," added Jake Vaccaro, another close friend and grad student at the University of North Carolina. "He wanted real experiences, not filtered, secondhand experiences."

Berg's eccentricities were well-known to those who knew him from Chester County's Henderson High, where he built award-winning science projects and was known for his keen sense of humor.

Luke Lorenz, 28, a close friend and now a grad student at Penn State, has saved a message from Berg on his answering machine. "What he said was, 'Luke, I just had this vision. I had this idea. I wanted to run it by you but I don't have a lot of time. I've gotta go check out some Roman mythology.' "

In college, Berg's restlessness almost got the better of him. He attended Cornell, Drexel, even the University of Oklahoma, but never earned his bachelor's degree.

Lorenz was at Lock Haven University in upstate Pennsylvania. "When he was in Cornell he started having wanderlust and he would ride his bike from Cornell toward Lock Haven, which is about 130 miles and I'd usually pick him up at Williamsport so he'd make it 100 miles," he recalled. "I remember it was actually weighing on him, what he wanted to do. He had this idea to go to Africa and help people there. He just wasn't getting things accomplished in college."

So Berg went to Uganda. "He was working with designing bricks - which are called stabilized soil," Lorenz said. Berg returned much thinner and told friends he'd given a lot of his food away.

His next venture was Prometheus Methods Tower Service Inc., which builds, maintains and inspects communications towers. He ran the business out of a farm in Lancaster County owned by his foreman, Scott Hollinger. Berg - listening to news or hard rock like Led Zeppelin while shunning TV - typically worked some 60 to 70 hours a week.

"Nick was a worker. That was his life. He didn't have a girlfriend. He loved to work," Hollinger said. "He loved to climb towers. He was passionate about climbing anything. He and his dad would go rock climbing. There's freedom up there. No one is breathing down your neck."

The difficult job also played into Berg's sense of risk. "He was all about adventure," Hollinger said. "We would drive six hours to a job and on the way, he'd see cable towers or telephone poles and he'd say, 'We've got to pull over.' " Then the two would hop out of the car and climb the towers.

Berg would often impersonate Arnold Schwarzenegger. "He'd say, 'Just do it. Climb it.' " Often, when he climbed a tower, he'd hang an American flag on top. Very religious, he also often wore a yarmulke, even under his hard hat.

Berg also believed strongly in the American mission in Iraq, and last fall he started studying business opportunities there.

With a limited knowledge of Arabic and with a distant relative - possibly an uncle by marriage - living in Mosul, Berg spent January and February in Iraq and then returned for a second time in March.

He inspected radio towers that had been struck by helicopters during the war, and worked near the notorious Abu Ghraib prison in an ominous case of foreshadowing. He traveled through the dangerous Iraqi countryside but rarely conveyed his concerns to his friends in his frequent e-mails.

"My presence near Moffak [his relative] has made him more concerned (about his own safety and probably mine too) than I've been the entire time I've been here," he wrote his friend Dave Skalish, an engineer at WPHT (1210-AM) here in Philadelphia, in January. "Mosul is very calm - except for the checkpoints, you can't really tell there is an occupation."

But Berg might have been slow to realize by his second visit that things had deteriorated in Iraq.

On March 24, Berg was arrested while riding in a taxi in downtown Mosul. The military source in Iraq, who spoke with the Daily News by telephone, said he was jailed because unescorted Americans aren't usually seen downtown and "they didn't know what to do with him."

He said police were suspicious because of "his demeanor," and authorities also wanted to know why he had the Koran and a book that the source said may have been called "The Jewish Problem" or "The Jewish Solution."

Hollinger said it wouldn't be surprising that Berg was found with the Koran and various books in Iraq. "It would have surprised me if he wasn't studying up on the culture of that land," he said. "He was an avid reader. He always did his homework and wanted to learn about the culture of the country he was in."

The source said it's unclear exactly why Berg spent close to two weeks in jail. Although he insisted that Berg was under Iraqi control, the FBI also questioned Berg three times and visited his parents back in West Chester.

"He'd made some contact with Arab kids at the University of Oklahoma - that's what the FBI was checking into...a guy from Oklahoma," the source said. He said the FBI wanted to know if the Oklahoma connection was "why he came over here."

He said the Oklahoma contact was "related to somebody who was involved in 9/11." But he didn't know if that person was jailed al Qaeda supporter Zacarias Moussaoui, who attended the University of Oklahoma close to when Berg was there in 2000.

Hollinger said he knew Berg had attended the University of Oklahoma and made friends with some Arabs or Muslims. He made friends with people from every culture and religion. "He told me there was some type of identity mixup - either with ID or e-mails, something along those lines," Hollinger said. "He said he was contacted by some prominent officials."

On April 6, after Berg's parents filed suit seeking his release, he was visited in jail by an American delegation that took him aside in a small room.

"He refused to accept any money to go home," the source said. "He refused to accept an airplane ticket. He refused any escort.

"He didn't want us. He said, 'You don't understand these people like I do. You're here for a reason - and so am I.' "

His friends say that while he was in jail, Berg had no way of knowing that four American contractors had been burned and hanged from a bridge in Fallujah, or that the situation in Iraq was sliding downhill.

"I don't think he understood the gravity of the situation because he was in prison and didn't know what was going on outside," Hollinger said.

After his release, Berg went to a Baghdad hotel and decided he would try to come home after all. But he still wanted to do things his own way - spurning an offer from U.S. consular officials for help in leaving from Jordan. He said he would leave from Kuwait - but never got there.

"So he believed in people," Lorenz said, "and that's one of the sad things about this whole situation because people are using this video to incite more anger."

bint el ba7rain
May 17th, 2004, 12:38 PM
he most important part of their statement they read on the video tape is not the warning to "Bush, Dog of the West" that "we will send you coffin after coffin of men slaughtered in this way".

It is the appeal to Islamic scholars to stop wasting time in empty rhetoric and attending conferences, but instead to join the path of jihad and carry the sword.

"The dignity of the Muslims at Abu-Ghraib prison is worth the sacrifice of blood and souls."

These men - possibly linked to al-Qaeda - are still a minority in Iraq. But the risk for the coalition is of a general uprising should their message win more followers.

That will be the most important "Arab reaction" to this video - and we are still waiting to know its strength.

adrenaline
May 17th, 2004, 12:38 PM
............................ :dot:

ZOSicK
May 17th, 2004, 12:38 PM
:thinking2:

Shakalakin
May 17th, 2004, 12:39 PM
:blink:

vette4ever
May 17th, 2004, 12:39 PM
:feedback: :feedback: :feedback:

bint el ba7rain
May 17th, 2004, 12:43 PM
what is wrong don't you have anything to say. i want to hear what you think of all this ???? do you think that what happend was right? do you think that after this the americans should leave iraq? what are your thoughts in this matter?

i heard alot of great things about this site and i would like to take this time from talking cars and seeing what the people of bahrain think of all this

RED HEAT
May 17th, 2004, 12:47 PM
:thinking:

adrenaline
May 17th, 2004, 12:57 PM
who cares....it happened...end of story.... :dot:

Shakalakin
May 17th, 2004, 01:01 PM
You really wanna know what I think

Hanooi should I tell her

HAHAHAHAH

Ok this is what I think

If this is video is real, what was this idiot doin in Iraq... Dude you’re an American Jew in a Muslim country where your people are screwing the country up...
This is all a cover... The Americans always come up with something new to hide the fact that they are screwing up... They probably came up with the video to cover what is happening in Iraq

"Word had spread due to the presence of certain items amongst my stuff that I was Israeli," Berg wrote. "So I felt a bit like Arlo Guthrie walking into a jail full of mother rapers and father stabbers as an accused litterbug."

It’s a freakin Jail... it’s like this in Iraq, the states and everywhere... they say it like it only happens in the Arab or Islamic world

"He was looking for the real thing," added Jake Vaccaro, another close friend and grad student at the University of North Carolina. "He wanted real experiences, not filtered, secondhand experiences

Hahaha looking for the real thing... here you go you got the full meal deal


The problem is they don’t see the big picture :

He most important part of their statement they read on the video tape is not the warning to "Bush, Dog of the West" that "we will send you coffin after coffin of men slaughtered in this way".

Uuuhhh isn’t that what the Americans and Israelis are doing at this moment...


:blink:

adrenaline
May 17th, 2004, 01:05 PM
he's dead right? end of story...why is everyone still talkin about this?

Fast Lane
May 17th, 2004, 01:26 PM
just look whats happening to the iraqi prisoners... and the female prisoners.. that why what happened to this guy is something the americans deserve.

adrenaline
May 17th, 2004, 01:32 PM
just look whats happening to the iraqi prisoners... and the female prisoners.. that why what happened to this guy is something the americans deserve.

really? ok everyone, let's run on the streets and pick up american civilians and kill them for the hell of it...because two dumbass americans took some weird a$$ pics in iraq at some point of time... sorry, but i don't care what passport, nationality, or religion they are... innocent people are innocent people...and making a video about the whole thing wasn't funny.... and disrespecting god by shouting "ALLAHU AKBAR" while behaeding a man like sheep is not very "ISLAMIC" is it?

Black Z
May 17th, 2004, 01:33 PM
whether you like it or not...

this is the world were living in..... do your best enjoy your life while it last...

there nothing much we can do... :nono2:

may Allah have mercy on thier souls....

Fast Lane
May 17th, 2004, 01:42 PM
really? ok everyone, let's run on the streets and pick up american civilians and kill them for the hell of it...because two dumbass americans took some weird a$$ pics in iraq at some point of time... sorry, but i don't care what passport, nationality, or religion they are... innocent people are innocent people...and making a video about the whole thing wasn't funny.... and disrespecting god by shouting "ALLAHU AKBAR" while behaeding a man like sheep is not very "ISLAMIC" is it?

im not with what happened, its really wrong.. and even saying "allah akbar".. that was really wrong. but look whats happening to the iraqi people. but as you said.. an incocent person is innocent and that shouldnt happen to them or those iraqi prisoners but do the americans care? NO!

adrenaline
May 17th, 2004, 01:51 PM
how do you know that? have you met every single american person? even his father blamed bush for what happened...i have a lot of american friends who are disgraced and embarrassed from the fact that it happened and are shocked to know that bush is sitting on his ass still sending troops over... they all want this war to stop and want this over and done with...they just want to go home... if arab soldiers were killing innocent people for the hell of it, would you say the same? don't judge ALL the americans, most of them are pigs who only care for having a good time, but some actually have brains and live here with us, and don't believe what their country is doing, but who to blame?
The muslims are my brethren, and the iraqis are our neighbours, i feel for them, but what can we do, duaa and pray... but to start killing innocents to prove a point? sorry, i just don't agree with that... i call it cowardice... go on the battlefield and fight... die protecting the women... but to hide in houses and do that? wtf?
and the pics of the iraqi women that most of the people have are from a porn site, so trust me, we don't even know what's really going on...so don't count on the media, because they don't know shite!

Shakalakin
May 17th, 2004, 02:04 PM
:blink:

Dude i still dont know your on who's side...

heres a qusestion to you, would you go to israil and where a Tshit with Allah Akbar printed on it??? This dude was walking around Iraq like he owns the bloody place

Again i must stress i seriously doubt this is real... Media baby... its a cover :blink:

CapRicon
May 17th, 2004, 02:45 PM
.... don't you have anything to say. i want to hear what you think of all this ?...... what are your thoughts in this matter?


Bint El Ba7rain - I appreciate all info u provided here :thanks:

Walla, as a female, i smell politics behind those published pics and the cruel video clip i just saw. I only wish our innocent children would not be looking at those materials - they are worse than horror movies ...

I hope there will be no more such hateful pics to be published on the daily newspapers.....

:( :(

ZOSicK
May 17th, 2004, 03:55 PM
i agree with shakalakin .. the whole thing is just to weird i dont mean the beheading part but the prison pics and stuff .. :confused:

vette4ever
May 17th, 2004, 04:30 PM
:blink:

yassrey
May 17th, 2004, 04:41 PM
beheading of an american.
coming soon to a theatre near you...................

Z28 Girl
May 17th, 2004, 06:19 PM
guyz u r all lookin enjoy typing today may coz u all r in good mood... :thinking2

Leo
May 17th, 2004, 06:26 PM
i dont tnk it's right to do what they did... this is all worng... :nono2: :nono2:

SAMoloGY
May 17th, 2004, 11:10 PM
cant u just notice it for once?.. everytime the bush administration or any other presidential group screws up, something like this happens.. why? to cover it up.. to make them seem like the weak side, to rally the american ppl, loyalty and boost their patriotism.. its all a scam, in islam u kill him with a sword, and even if hes not muslim and pretty sure something must be read before killing him, if it was abu mu93ab al zarqaawi (which is one legged by the way and extremely religious) im pretty sure he'll do it the islamic way.. friggin liars.. the screwed up in iraq (abu ghraib, fallujah, and now najaf and karbala) and they're using this to cover it up.. easy as that.. spin doctors at work!

designo
May 18th, 2004, 12:50 AM
i am disgraced at muslims!

for 8 frigin years, the arabs were funding this ****er saddam to kill iranians! For what? Religion? They were muslims too!

Then he ****in turned on his kuwaity allies! Why?

As far as i can remember, this land has had it all! Its never been stable! So what makes us think that it will be? Heads being chopped off was a daily occurence! Through out history, the americans in particular benfited from all the outcomes!

If its all a setup, then i'm ont surprised! If its not, then whats new? I think the arabs are getting a taste of their own medicine. The day will come where the blue eyed friends will no longer be friends! they will be invaders and occupiers! Dont kid yourselves, they already are!

I wouldnt be surprised if they bombed karbala and blew up the shia holy shrines.. just so they can draq the iranians into this conflict ( something they have been dying to do since day ONE)

BiGiE
May 18th, 2004, 01:05 AM
man who cares if he got beheaded man and the amiricans just reacted to this paet and wat about the prision piks wat are they doing to the solidgerx der NOTHING so who gives a **** man

Silver SS
May 18th, 2004, 08:25 AM
wow... did i miss something here...
this thread is diffrent :up2:
I'm with every word that designo said

SAMoloGY
May 18th, 2004, 08:29 AM
i am disgraced at muslims!

for 8 frigin years, the arabs were funding this ****er saddam to kill iranians! For what? Religion? They were muslims too!

Then he ****in turned on his kuwaity allies! Why?

As far as i can remember, this land has had it all! Its never been stable! So what makes us think that it will be? Heads being chopped off was a daily occurence! Through out history, the americans in particular benfited from all the outcomes!

If its all a setup, then i'm ont surprised! If its not, then whats new? I think the arabs are getting a taste of their own medicine. The day will come where the blue eyed friends will no longer be friends! they will be invaders and occupiers! Dont kid yourselves, they already are!

I wouldnt be surprised if they bombed karbala and blew up the shia holy shrines.. just so they can draq the iranians into this conflict ( something they have been dying to do since day ONE)
what about our green eyed sexy friend?

:D

Silver SS
May 18th, 2004, 08:32 AM
who is that???? do i know him ot her :crazy:

SAMoloGY
May 18th, 2004, 08:33 AM
look deep into ur heart.. ull find him!

Silver SS
May 18th, 2004, 08:36 AM
are you Yoda...

designo
May 18th, 2004, 08:38 AM
you guys are sick! Just like saddam!





























whip me NOW!

SAMoloGY
May 18th, 2004, 08:42 AM
you guys are sick! Just like saddam!





























whip me NOW!

my pleasure!

:whip: Green Eyed Designo

Thug Life
May 18th, 2004, 08:45 AM
look deep into ur heart.. ull find him!

or look who's laying on silver ss and u will know him :haha: :haha:

Silver SS
May 18th, 2004, 08:50 AM
:pimp:
are you talkn to me

Thug Life
May 18th, 2004, 08:51 AM
oh his here :tome: :tome:

Silver SS
May 18th, 2004, 08:52 AM
:z:

Thug Life
May 18th, 2004, 08:58 AM
silvero how is u'r car

Silver SS
May 18th, 2004, 09:00 AM
it's alright...:up2:

designo
May 18th, 2004, 09:01 AM
can i borrow your car for a few days?

Silver SS
May 18th, 2004, 09:06 AM
dude, you don't need to ask :pimp:
Just get you driving permit and your all set

Shakalakin
May 18th, 2004, 09:06 AM
I suggest you BAN SSS… as soon as he comes in a thread with his comments we go off Topic....

D man I agree with a lot of what you just said… but you being disgraced by Muslims is very wrong… you can say Arabs but Islam and you being disgraced is a very strong statement don’t you think

:blink:

Thug Life
May 18th, 2004, 09:09 AM
dude, you don't need to ask :pimp:
Just get you driving permit and your all set

silvero i want u'r car last day at this month

i wanna go for my girl in u'r car :lildevil:

Silver SS
May 18th, 2004, 09:11 AM
Shakalakin :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:

Shakalakin
May 18th, 2004, 09:15 AM
see what i mean :blink:

Silver SS
May 18th, 2004, 09:18 AM
aaaaaa shaaaaataaaaapppppppp

Shakalakin
May 18th, 2004, 09:20 AM
:blink:

Thug Life
May 18th, 2004, 09:25 AM
silvero u didnt answerd me :whack:

Silver SS
May 18th, 2004, 09:27 AM
:whack: ouch that hurt
Dude... like i said get your driving permit 1st and then the keys to my car

Thug Life
May 18th, 2004, 09:34 AM
man bas i will show up a lil that's all

designo
May 18th, 2004, 09:49 AM
I suggest you BAN SSS… as soon as he comes in a thread with his comments we go off Topic....

D man I agree with a lot of what you just said… but you being disgraced by Muslims is very wrong… you can say Arabs but Islam and you being disgraced is a very strong statement don’t you think

:blink:
you are right! My apologies for the inadequate statement!

Silver SS
May 18th, 2004, 10:20 AM
designo stand for your right...