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ファルーク
December 24th, 2010, 11:48 PM
This thread is in direct response to the needs of user - GT3240x2 ( Me ). This guys GTR has experienced two of the most common problems we are seeing now with the GR6 transmission in the GTR. This first of these is Line Pressure Sensor failure. Normally when this happens the transmission goes into limp mode and displays zero pressure on the dash. Replacement sensors are not available so we engineered this solution for it - WR35TPU (Transmission Pressure Unit), which replaces factory line pressure and/or Clutch Pressure sensors.




First up you remove the valve body and unwind the factory sensor as pictured.

http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/far1.jpg



Now our WR35TPU unit we choose to mount remotely. There are a couple of good reasons for this allowing simple access should it ever require changing again, and also so we can use a larger bodied and different spec sensor in the aim of better durability.The new WR35TPU sensor comes with the braided line, wiring etc. to make it a plug and play fitment.



http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/far2.jpg




With WR35TPU now installed it mounts up neatly alongside the valve body of the transmission and does its job. In fact save for a small section of the braided line being visible you wouldnt even know it was there


http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/far3.jpg





Second problem is Synchro failure. The large chunks I and some folks are finding in their oil and on their magnets are the nicely machined teeth from the stoppers on the synchro dog rings in the transmission. Most commonly 4th gear ring breaks, sometimes first, sometimes second. The result is damaged synchros and the possibility of an over-selected gear which can lead to gear failure. This is a design problem and not dictated by driving style, power outputs, or brand/type of lubricant. Our solution to this problem is simple, affordable, but took many hours of design work. We call it WR35GS (Gear Stopper). Let me ( Martin ) explain how it works -


http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/far4.jpg




Evidence of over-selection and synchro failure in the transmission are these little black teeth on the magnets throughout the box. Failure is not too far away at this point. It can happen to anyone, anytime.


http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/far5.jpg




To fix the problem WR35GS modifies the throw of the transmission so that the selector simply cannot bounce off the dog ring on the back of the synchro and cause this damage. We modify this action at the valve body which requires the piston covers be removed (simple job).



http://www.ls1turbo.com.au/pics/far6.jpg



The WR35GS gear stoppers then locate between the piston and the end plate to effectively limit the throw of the selector and keep the vital internals of the transmission from bouncing off each other then turning to metal schrapnel. A simple design yet extremely effective, and tested to work and emiminate the chance of damage in the gearbox.


For anyone else interested in these gearbox parts and pricing etc. simply PM me or email Willlall Direct - info@willall.com.au and we can supply a quote and have these parts on your doorstep in short time

designo
December 25th, 2010, 06:13 AM
And for a moment there.. I actually thought our boy at SMS had designed the solution.. I had a huge smile on my face!
Yalla, good luck with the car and hope to see more of it this winter!

NOS4EVER
December 25th, 2010, 01:58 PM
This should be a recall if it's a common fault and by the looks of it it can be done without removing the trans from the car.

ファルーク
December 25th, 2010, 10:26 PM
And for a moment there.. I actually thought our boy at SMS had designed the solution.. I had a huge smile on my face!
Yalla, good luck with the car and hope to see more of it this winter!


W.A and i spoke about it when it happened to my gearbox, so they developed 2 parts for my transmission because Nissan does not sell this part or have a fix for it.

Insha'Allah, if it doesn't run into other problems.



This should be a recall if it's a common fault and by the looks of it it can be done without removing the trans from the car.

Yes you don't have to remove the transmission for this fix.

Nissan will replace the transmission if your GTR is under warranty. Obviously my car does not have one anymore.

ファルーク
December 25th, 2010, 10:27 PM
So this is the isht SMS found stuck on the magnets.



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This is the large chunks I and some folks are finding in their oil and on their magnets are the nicely machined teeth from the stoppers on the synchro dog rings in the transmission.

ZOSicK
December 30th, 2010, 07:09 AM
Hope it gets well soon Q and like Designo said see more of it :up2:

Thug Life
January 8th, 2011, 02:18 PM
any good news about this failure?

ファルーク
January 8th, 2011, 02:23 PM
We installed the parts, all is working well. Production will start on Feb for the sensors and gear stoppers.

Thug Life
January 8th, 2011, 02:39 PM
^^ 7imdillah and I hope other GTR owners are happy with the results

ファルーク
January 8th, 2011, 02:44 PM
^^yes they are :)

We tested 4 GTR's in different countries with these fixes.

Thug Life
January 8th, 2011, 03:01 PM
^^ thats good to hear :)