how much u think

[turbo]

hi all of you i wanne know i will swap an H22A in my civic and i wanne turbo it but how much you think it will cost me to instal that turbo kit with all parts need it ?
thanx

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by turbo
hi all of you i wanne know i will swap an H22A in my civic and i wanne turbo it but how much you think it will cost me to instal that turbo kit with all parts need it ?
thanx

good quality turbo kit will be between $4000 - $4500, without shipping... will give you almost 100hp extra on your stock engine, up to 400hp with modified engine.....
for fully built H22A turbo civic cost, you can ask about it in Z Speed garage in hamad town and the guy will tell you how much it costed the owner to build it....

good luck with your project...:cheers:

[Bahraini_Zupra]

holy **** !!! 4500$ for 100 hp !:pow:

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by Bahraini_Zupra
holy **** !!! 4500$ for 100 hp !:pow:
yeah $4500 for 100hp on stock motor, if you built the engine with pistons, connecting rods and stuff, you will be able to hit 400hp easily with the same kit which is $4500 :hue: ... i guess you know that the boost can be raised with a boost conteroller! and there are choises for you which turbo to get with this kit.... t3/t4 (25psi max), 60-1 (up to 30psi)! :naughty:

[Black Beast]

60-1 is too big and powerful, i suggest u go with the t3/t4..

[v8 killer]

yaa but what kind of kit it will cost that much i have got some kit for $2500 also with same turbocharger t3\t4 ? but i think if i make my own kit it will cost me less than that from www.ebay.com or what do u think Mr_Aryan need your idea your the expert????and where i can get the cheapest internal for H22A and what do i need to be daily driveing with that turbo kit and that much of hp i hope you got my point
thanx:feedback: :bunch:

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by v8 killer
yaa but what kind of kit it will cost that much i have got some kit for $2500 also with same turbocharger t3\t4 ? but i think if i make my own kit it will cost me less than that from www.ebay.com or what do u think Mr_Aryan need your idea your the expert????and where i can get the cheapest internal for H22A and what do i need to be daily driveing with that turbo kit and that much of hp i hope you got my point
thanx:feedback: :bunch:

you can get cheap things on ebay.com, but the thing is most of the times you buy from people not shops, means sometimes used parts, sometimes they lie, not under warranty... and many things.
so i prefer you buy from the big shops like summit racing, i usually deal with Options Auto Salon...

as for the internals, there is nothing called cheap price.. if the brand is cheap, then you'll get the thing for cheap... lets talk about headers now, did you see the one that they have in honda dealer? what they call it? no one knows!! it's just some shop made them and they sell it for cheap, not dyno tested and nothing and you'll have it for 50bd? or something like that....
what about DC sports? you'll pay 80-100BD, but it's dyno proven, and they tell you in which RPM you'll feel the power and everything... i had DC sports on my Civic before, you really feel the quality and power...

as for daily driving turbo car, anyone can drive his car daily, but the point is would you rebuild your engine every 2 years or so? or just drive the car sometimes and rebuild the engine every 4 years or more maybe? would you use our patrol and kill the engine? or use high octane and have the maximum hp out of your engine without any problems?
it's all depend on you....
i used my car daily with turbo for 2 years, now i decided to get more parts for it, use high octane, go more boost, and drive it whenever i feel like driving it and have fun in it...
mine still would be a daily driving car, got A/C , power steering wheel, full interior, but i'm not ready to loose the gas which will cost me more than BD100 for a drum, just for crousing!?!?:nono:
so when my car is out, most of the times you'll see me in the highway....heheheheh:bigok:
good luck

[v8 killer]

that for your help Mr_Aryan and when i start my project car i will let you know to get some help if you can and hope to see you in the highway inshall and killing all the v8 cars people hehhe
thanx

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by v8 killer
that for your help Mr_Aryan and when i start my project car i will let you know to get some help if you can and hope to see you in the highway inshall and killing all the v8 cars people hehhe
thanx
you're :welcome: dude...

i won't be racing, i'll just have my car for my self and speed for my self...
you kill the V8's when you get your car ready, but not all the V8's are slow these days, so becareful...hhehehehe:emb:
i can help anytime...:bigok:

[v8 killer]

it's i know man there's v8's like F16 hehe so iam going to play only with normal one or i will be beated in one day ehhehehe
thanx for your help man

[designo]

Originally posted by Mr Aryan

i won't be racing, i'll just have my car for my self and speed for my self...


yeah right !! :naughty:

wait till i catch u on the road like last time! :naughty:

[Bahraini_Zupra]

man if u are planning for 400 hp it would be great cuz no one here in our street is running this much of hp capicity really most cars running lower than 340 hp and they thinks they reached the 500 .
good work thouth hondas is soo light .
good luck

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by Bahraini_Zupra
man if u are planning for 400 hp it would be great cuz no one here in our street is running this much of hp capicity really most cars running lower than 340 hp and they thinks they reached the 500 .
good work thouth hondas is soo light .
good luck

i like the supra you put on your signature..!! i've seen the video of it... it's unbeleivable!! non of the wheels are on the ground...!!

i'm with you in this thing, it's really hard to reach this much HP...
400hp honda!!:naughty: where are you Mugen R?!?!?

[Bahraini_Zupra]

hahaahah right

yah cool sig belive it or not there is low 6 sec supras too ;)

[Death_Scorpion]

Turbo alone 3750 us $

Adding the other if you want things goes safe and you don't blow up the engine add more 2000-3000 us $

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This is for turbo only , I didn't add the sawp ,,,

by the way , for other cheaper I suggest you go for k20A1 (stock 200 hp uses the new i-vetc ) which is used on RSX type-S or Type-R

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by Death_Scorpion
by the way , for other cheaper I suggest you go for k20A1 (stock 200 hp uses the new i-vetc ) which is used on RSX type-S or Type-R
the RSX type S got 200HP, and the type R is 220HP, also the engine won't fit old generation honda's, not even the new Civic's we got in Bahrain, you can only put it on 2003 Civic Si (160HP) which they have them in the states and the new civic type R, and you don't need that for the new Civic R cause it already got 200HP...:naughty:

[Death_Scorpion]

Thx for the info Brother ,,

By the way Can you tell me the diffrence between the K20A3 and K20A1 ,,

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by the way my currrent car have got a K20A3 , I search the web for a Stage one Turbo kit , seems to be hard to be found ,,


Can you help :tongue:

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by Death_Scorpion
Thx for the info Brother ,,

By the way Can you tell me the diffrence between the K20A3 and K20A1 ,,

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by the way my currrent car have got a K20A3 , I search the web for a Stage one Turbo kit , seems to be hard to be found ,,


Can you help :tongue:
which car do you have? i'm not sure what does the K20A3 and A1 come into, i'm not good in the new hondas, but probably this is type S and the other one is type R, or US spec and somewhere else spec!! or this is RSX and the other one is civic!! but i can find out... (next time):tongue:

as for the turbo kits, these kits is for K20 RSX, but i'm sure it will work on your car...

Stage 1 RSX Complete full Kit:
Type S produces 275whp at 7psi starts at $3995

Stage II RSX Turbo Kit:
Type S Stage II includes fmu, piston, rods. 350-370whp at 17-20psi starts at $5299

Stage III RSX Turbo kit:
Upgraded pistons, rods, sleeves, springs & retainers and wide turbo cams 450+whp at 25psi starts at $8995

Stage IV RSX Turbo kit:
Fully built race engine upgraded everything 30 to 40psi 550whp to 700+whp starts at $12595

Stage II RSX video, 439whp @ 25psi (http://nsxsc.com/439rsxtd.mpg)

[Death_Scorpion]

thx for the info above brother



It's The new Civic Si 2003-2004

Engine is k20A3 i-vetc 160 hp , very low psi level compared to the K20A1 which is on Type R integra , RSX Type S , R , which are higher psi to get the 200 hp from it

my goal is to reach the 240-260 hp range

it's used also on these Honda cars

Honda Stream




:bigok:

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by Death_Scorpion
thx for the info above brother



It's The new Civic Si 2003-2004

Engine is k20A3 i-vetc 160 hp , very low psi level compared to the K20A1 which is on Type R integra , RSX Type S , R , which are higher psi to get the 200 hp from it

my goal is to reach the 240-260 hp range

it's used also on these Honda cars

Honda Stream




:bigok:
the new si!! wow! i like them but not stock!! either the type R one, or the mugen!
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/images/projects/civicsi/king_si_01.jpg

as for 240-260HP, you can go with the stage one, that's more than enought....
where are you from? i'm sure not from Middle East!!

[rayash923]

if any1 wants 2 sell his h22a engine plz pm me:tongue:

[Death_Scorpion]

Originally posted by Mr Aryan
the new si!! wow! i like them but not stock!! either the type R one, or the mugen!
http://www.kingmotorsports.com/images/projects/civicsi/king_si_01.jpg

as for 240-260HP, you can go with the stage one, that's more than enought....
where are you from? i'm sure not from Middle East!!


Hi man ,,, about a model called mugen there are no such honda car or model called like this , mugen is a company that's produce it's own perfromance mods and parts for honda cars ,, (( by the way they are backrupt and another jap company has allrady taken over their assests and they will start thier business again at begning of next year ))

thier web site is www.mugen-power.com


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By the way :naughty: Guess What ???


I'm From Bahrain

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by Death_Scorpion
Hi man ,,, about a model called mugen there are no such honda car or model called like this , mugen is a company that's produce it's own perfromance mods and parts for honda cars ,, (( by the way they are backrupt and another jap company has allrady taken over their assests and they will start thier business again at begning of next year ))

thier web site is www.mugen-power.com


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By the way :naughty: Guess What ???


I'm From Bahrain

i know that mugen is a performance company, but i was talking about the body kit and wheels they got for Si...
do you have the new 2002-2003 Civic Si Hatchback? where did you get it from ? the dealer doesn't bring them here!
do you have any pics of it?

[Death_Scorpion]

ops ,,, I think I have miss up with the cars

It's honda Stream , Not si , I was to say the K20A3 is same for both Civic Si + Stream model :lmao:

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http://www.mugen-power.com/street/04stream/img/wp800.jpg

[Silver SS]

Sweet ride:lildevil: :lildevil:

[Striker]

looks like those streams r in tha league now they look good :bigok:

[Mr Aryan]

wow!! haven't seen those streams around yet!! did they start selling them? sweeeett!!:bigok:
ohh sorry guys :offtopic: , you wanted to know if there is a turbo kit for your ride, well if your the engine got the exhaust manifold behind the dashboard, then the RSX turbo kit should fit your car..:bigok:

[Death_Scorpion]

Sure , It shares the same engine all these cars are using same engine ,,

Civic Si 2002-2004
RSX ( not Type S,R) 2002-2004

K20A3 , The main diffrent are within the ECU only for diffrent rpm red line , not much diffrence not more than 250 rpm

and trans ratios , cuase some are using Auto , or manual
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I will post my Car Video from 0-205 km/h soon , my car are at 4th gear at 205 , Stock car And I didn't shift to the 5th yet

I think it's because of the rev limiter + max speed limiter

[Silver SS]

Originally posted by Death_Scorpion
Sure , It shares the same engine all these cars are using same engine ,,

Civic Si 2002-2004
RSX ( not Type S,R) 2002-2004

K20A3 , The main diffrent are within the ECU only for diffrent rpm red line , not much diffrence not more than 250 rpm

and trans ratios , cuase some are using Auto , or manual
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I will post my Car Video from 0-205 km/h soon , my car are at 4th gear at 205 , Stock car And I didn't shift to the 5th yet

I think it's because of the rev limiter + max speed limiter
:naughty: ... me wanna see:bigok:

[4ced]

Originally posted by rayash923
if any1 wants 2 sell his h22a engine plz pm me:tongue:


you can find them in dubai for about 200 dinars with the gear

And about the turbo... well, if you buy a turbo and an intercooler from a scrapped car or sumthin you can make your own turbo kit for an extra 200 dinars or something its really not difficult, a turbo system is almost completely made up of a bunch of pipes (you would need a few other things meni menak like blow off valve etc etc but the turbo and IC are the most important things)

[Mugen R.]

]Originally posted by Bahraini_Zupra

man if u are planning for 400 hp it would be great cuz no one here in our street is running this much of hp capicity really most cars running lower than 340 hp and they thinks they reached the 500 .




Originally posted by Mr Aryan
i'm with you in this thing, it's really hard to reach this much HP...
400hp honda!!:naughty: where are you Mugen R?!?!?

Here I am! :afro:

Well, my B18B1 (on a Integra Type R) did make 403 hp to the wheels (Dyno proven!). It was built and tuned in Chicago (that's why it's been dyno proven!). It's hard to get such numbers and higher, but an experienced tuner along with a dyno could do wonders! It's not only the parts, which anyone could put together, making it work properly and smoothly is the *****.

If you change the internals of an engine and put a turbo kit on, then you have to consider tuning. And since we lack a dyno facility in Bahrain, it's makes that much harder to maximize the horsepower without hurting the engine (because of running lean, for example).

One more thing, and consider it a piece of advice! When you get a part, especially turbo kits and/or engine internals, it's always better to get the proper part, even if it's more expensive. If that's the case (parts being more expensive), then wait until you have the full amount to get the proper part! You get cheaper parts, chances are things will go bad and you'll end up spending more to fix the problem!
You should do it right the first time, as this will save you A LOT of money!:driving:

[Bahraini_Zupra]

so there is maybe 1 or 2 hondas in bahrain with 350 400 hp !?
yah i agree with u about the dynos **** everyone should get wide Band sensor insted of this :( why we dont have dynos :(

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by Bahraini_Zupra
so there is maybe 1 or 2 hondas in bahrain with 350 400 hp !?
yah i agree with u about the dynos **** everyone should get wide Band sensor insted of this :( why we dont have dynos :(
it's not about having the dyno machine! it's about who gonna work on it? even if you learn how to work on a dyno, who would be able to tune the cars? like if BRN996TT came to you with his supra!! are you able to tune it for him?
it's not that easy to have it, many people thought about bringing the dyno over here, bas ma yeswaa kelesh... it's little bit expansive...and how many people will come to dyno test?

[Silver SS]

Originally posted by Mr Aryan
how many people will come to dyno test?
every car freak on the island...:bigok:

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by Silver SS
every car freak on the island...:bigok:
you know how people will go then??
a guy with 236hp will go for the guy with 235hp and say that he is faster cause he got 1hp more than him!!! we'll have races with HP figures... then no one will race, and everybody will be scared cause if he tested his car and got lets say 350hp, and another tested car with 300hp beats him, people will make fun of him... this is how our racers are these days....

[Bahraini_Zupra]

Guys u didnt know what i mean i didnt mean we have to dyno our cars to see the hp i ment we would use the dyno for tunning not only watching how many hp kicking !

[Mr Aryan]

Originally posted by Bahraini_Zupra
Guys u didnt know what i mean i didnt mean we have to dyno our cars to see the hp i ment we would use the dyno for tunning not only watching how many hp kicking !
well, ok how many people we got that need their cars to be well tuned? you can count them by fingers... there should eb a PRO tuner to do it... i can't let anyone who has a dyno machine with no experiance to tune my car!!!


and every car freak as silver SS said they want to have their HP only....

[Bahraini_Zupra]

i know there is no experianced ppl here in bahrain but with time ppls should know what to do

[Mugen R.]

I agree with Bahraini_Zupra. We don't have any experienced tuners yet, in time people will catch up. But how long till that happens!?! :confused:

The use of dyno will only be maximized if you have a good tuner making the car run close to perfect!

[Striker]

:stickpok:................

[...SILVIA...]

I wish we had dyno here ..:crying:

chaan Tuning would be much easier ...
I have a problem now with my car,which is running rich,and i'm trying to tune it as much as possible,but still, can't get the exact
solution :crying:

[Silver SS]

Mugen R :bigok:

[Death_Scorpion]

Will guys tuneing cars isn't all about dyno , car you have , tuners aviable in Bahrain orwhatever things

About me I have the car + I have money + I have the desire + I like racing

but didn't you ask yourself in Bahrain it does not wroth to do it

there are no offical Races
+
Police will catch you for a noisy car
+
It will not get registred
+
NO insureance for the car
+
No tuners Shop ( pro's ) not a Grage with 200 and Z's or a HOnda Freak thinks himself the best tuner grage in Bahrain thinking himself doing sawp's and when you tell him what is a psi or engine Computer managment system he will get lost ( happened to me )



tell now let's w8 for the F1 in Bahrain later on offical drags and races will be offically we may breath a littel up and we may encounter some things make our lifes easier with our tuned cars

we shall w8 and see